A Satanic Civilization

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Henrik Gustav II
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A Satanic Civilization

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The fascist neo-Nazi Order of Nine Angles has political objectives. The first desire to destroy Western Civilization, by supporting Radical Islam, and the Islamification of Europe and America. They desire to have the Radical Islamists in Europe commit genocide against the Jews in Western countries. They then desire to establish a Nazi Government. In preparation for this Nazi government, David Myatt has actually drafted their neo-Nazi constitution, which can be found in his Folk Culture essays: http://www.o9a.org/2021/01/folk-culture-by-dwm/.

Their form of government they desire is a very strong centralized fascist militant monarchy. They have the desire to establish a feudal caste system, just like how the Aryans in India have a cast system. The "mundanes" who are at the bottom of the feudal caste system will be enslaved serfs. They desire to establish an agrarian socialist economy.

So the Order of Nine Angles has the following concepts as their idea of a Satanic civilization:

1. The genocide of Jews from Western civilization.
2. The destruction of all current Western governments.
3. The outlawing of all religion.
4. National Socialist constitution, based on direct democracy at the local level.
5. Very centralized government which is a Fascist militant monarchy, with an elected king or folk leader.
6. Feudal Caste system, and the reintroduction of Serfdom and slavery.
7. An agrarian socialist economy.

Do you guys agree with the ONA's vision of a Satanic civilization?

If not, what would be the best form of Satanic civilization? If there was a Satanic country, how would it be run? What form of government? What would the economic system be? Would other religions be allowed?
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They want to take people back to the political regime Europe had during the Catholic Empire. That didn't work, the reality this type of society will be low technology to maintain it. The advancement of technology is what changed society and made the Feudal system out of date. Making most of your population serfs and the small minority full time military also lowers the ability for advancement on any level. What also happens when the small gene population of elites starts to get too interbred in their attempts to maintain their class. This already happened with this system this was commented upon in Britain in the early 20th century the spent blood lines of the aristocracy and the problems it creates.

This is all done on the excuse other people are mundane and they can't function in life so they need to be enslaved in the name of an outdated caste system which was based on the distribution of labor in a low tech era.
Don Danko

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My own opinion is change the culture to one based on psychic [spiritual] advancement with basic ethic's being emphasized and most of the problems would be gone as they are out of ignorance and make a situation in which society can then be structured to evolve quickly based on advancements in the psyche of the population. That will allow for an enlightened society to manifest quickly.
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Is this ONA even active, seems like something from the 80´s like the Hells Angels and you still try to make this into a real thing.
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Snakeway wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:43 pm Is this ONA even active, seems like something from the 80´s like the Hells Angels and you still try to make this into a real thing.
Yes. They are very active. They've infiltrated the far right. They are active enough to be murdering people and conducting terrorist acts. Their wikipedia lists a bunch of their current activities:

According to a report by the civil rights group the Southern Poverty Law Center the ONA "holds an important position in the niche, international nexus of occult, esoteric, and/or satanic neo-Nazi groups."[160] Several newspapers have reported that the O9A is linked to a number of high-profile figures from the far right[8] and that the group is affiliated and shares members with neo-Nazi terrorist groups such as Atomwaffen Division and proscribed National Action, Sonnenkrieg Division and Nordic Resistance Movement.[161][162][163][164][5]

On September 23, 2019, Specialist[165] Jarrett William Smith, 24, of Fort Riley, Kansas, was charged with distributing information related to explosives and weapons of mass destruction. Assistant US Attorney Anthony Mattivi alleged in federal court that Smith distributed explosives information and was planning on assassinating federal agents with three other people "for the glory of his Satanist religion".[166] On February 10, 2020, Smith pleaded guilty to two counts of distributing information related to explosives, destructive devices and weapons of mass destruction and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison.[167][168]

A paratrooper named Ethan Melzer in the 173rd Airborne Brigade's Sky Soldiers, who was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 503rd Infantry Regiment, in Vicenza, Italy, in 2019 through 2020, plotted an ambush on his unit, "to result in the deaths of as many of his fellow service members as possible." He was charged in June 2020 with conspiring and attempting to murder military service members, and providing and attempting to provide material support to terrorists. The paratrooper was charged with leaking classified information (including the unit's location) to his co-conspirators in the RapeWaffen nexion and the Order of the Nine Angles (O9A). He faces a maximum sentence of life in prison.[169][170]

After Melzer was exposed, several other active members of the military were also discovered to be members of the O9A. Corwyn Storm Carver was found to be another member in communication with the group and in possession of O9A paraphernalia and literature while stationed in Kuwait. Shandon Simpson, member of the Ohio Army National Guard sent to quell the George Floyd protests in Washington, D.C. openly espoused neo-nazi views and was also found to be in the Rapewaffen. Simpson told that he was planning to shoot the protesters as part of "racial holy war" and was intercepted by the FBI but only after he had already been deployed.[171][172]

In January 2020, O9A follower Luke Austin Lane and two accomplices were arrested for allegedly stockpiling weapons and plotting to kill an antifascist couple and their young children. In preparation Lane along with dozen other people had engaged in paramilitary training and sacrificed a ram, drank its blood and consumed psychedelic drugs in an occult ritual on his property.[173]

Hope not Hate reported in March 2020 that there were six cases of neo-nazis connected to O9A being prosecuted for terrorist offenses during the year alone.[174] A 2019 article in The Times newspaper stated that "a Times reporter went undercover on the gaming platform Discord to infiltrate an invitation-only Satanist neo-Nazi group called The Order of Nine Angles (O9A). The group openly encouraged acts of terrorism and celebrated what was described as esoteric Hitlerism."[175] In March 2020 the British political advocacy group Hope Not Hate began a campaign to have the Order of Nine banned - proscribed - as a terrorist group, a campaign supported by several British members of Parliament including the Labour Party's Yvette Cooper, Chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee.[3][176]

On September 18, 2020, Toronto Police arrested 34-year-old Guilherme “William” Von Neutegem and charged him with the murder of Mohamed-Aslim Zafis. Zafis was the caretaker of a local mosque who was found dead with his throat cut. The Toronto Police Service said the killing is possibly connected to the stabbing murder of Rampreet Singh a few days prior a short distance from the spot where Zafis' murder took place. Von Neutegem is a member of the O9A and social media accounts established as to belonging to him promote the group and included recordings of Von Neutegem performing satanic chants. In his home there was also an altar with the symbol of the O9A adorning a monolith.[177] According to Evan Balgord of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network, they are aware of more O9A members in Canada, and their affiliated organization Northern Order. CAHN reported previously of the Northern Order when a member in Canadian Armed Forces was caught selling firearms and explosives to other neo-nazis.[178][179][180][181][182]

On December 11, 2020, the UK based BitChute removed all O9A material for violating the site's anti-terror policy, citing O9A's "close connections with other proscribed organisations".[183] The same month Yahoo News acquired a report by the National Counterterrorism Center, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security circulated to U.S intelligence agencies, assessing that the O9A poses a violent threat and that it plays an influential role among right-wing terror groups. The report however added that the O9A was rejected by certain groups for inciting its members to commit rape and pedophilia.[184] In January 2021 after the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, discussion about proscribing far-right groups was renewed by the Public Safety Minister Bill Blair, and the O9A was named by experts as one of the most dangerous groups in Canada whose proscription is a priority.[185]

Canadian armed forces launched an internal investigation in October 2020 after a special forces soldier with the CJIRU was identified as a member of the Northern Order and Order of Nine Angles. According to the SPLC, the man is among “some pretty well-known, high-up people in these organizations" and an acquaintance of James Mason and the former Master corporal Patrik Mathews who was previously exposed as a recruiter for the Northern Order and Base in Canada.[186][187] On February 1, 2021 a Cornish man said to have been the leader of the UK branch of the Feuerkrieg Division plead guilty to 12 terrorism offences. Police had previously raided his home in 2019 for firearms and had found bomb building instructions and O9A literature.[188][189]

Sexual abuse
Allegations have been made by antifascist organisations, several British politicians and the media that the O9A condones and encourages sexual abuse, and this has been given as one of the reasons why the O9A should be proscribed by the British government. Many O9A members openly view rape as an effective way to undermine society by transgressing against its norms. White Star Acception commits rapes by their own admission and O9A texts such as "The Dreccian Way", "Iron Gates", "Bluebird" and "The Rape Anthology" recommend and praise rape and pedophilia, even suggesting rape is necessary for "ascension of the Ubermensch".[145][190] According to the BBC News, "the authorities are concerned by the number of paedophiles associated with the ONA".[3] Children at least as young as 13 have been groomed by the group.[163]

20-year-old Atomwaffen Division member Benjamin Bogard was arrested by the FBI in February 2019 while he was in the process of building a bomb. He was later convicted of child pornography charges after the authorities uncovered videos of young girls being raped on his phone during the investigation. FBI Special Agent Christopher Combs testified that Bogard had a "fixation with committing barbaric and inhumane acts of violence against children and others".[191][192][193]

Ryan Fleming of Yorkshire-based O9A nexion Drakon Covenant is currently in prison for the rape of a 14-year-old girl, after already having been convicted of sexual assault and torture of a minor.[194] O9A member Andrew Dymock, who stands accused of 15 terror offenses, has also been questioned by the police regarding the sexual assault of a teenage girl who had nazi and occult symbols carved on her body.[195][196] In July 2020, another O9A member Jacek Tchorzewski was convicted by Harrow Crown Court for terror offences and for possessing over 500 pictures and videos depicting children as young as six being raped and necrophilia. Tchorzewski also possessed nazi and "satanist literature depicting rape and paedophilia". Tchorzewski's co-defendant Michal Szewczuk "ran a blog that encouraged the rape and torture of opponents, including small children" and was likewise sentenced to four years in prison for terror offences. Ethan Melzer also belonged to an encrypted O9A chatroom where members encouraged one another to perpetrate sexual violence and shared videos of these rapes.[197][3][198][199][200] In November 2019, a Durham teen who according to the BBC News adheres to "occult nazism" and "influenced by the ONA, [sought] to alter himself in line with their literature" was found guilty of preparing a terrorist attack. In addition to the terror offences, he is charged with sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl.[201][202][203] He was eventually convicted of five sexual assaults in addition to the terror offenses.[204]

In March 2020, a prominent O9A member and former leader of Atomwaffen Division John Cameron Denton was accused by prosecutors of possessing and sharing child pornography of sexual abuse of a young underage girl by his group, in addition to making 134 death and bomb threats against reporters and minority communities.[205][206] On September 2, 2020, another member Harry Vaughan plead guilty to 14 terrorism offenses and possession of child pornography. A police search of his house uncovered videos of brutal rapes of children, documents showing how to build bombs, detonators, firearms, and "satanic, neo-nazi" ONA books advising rape and murder. In addition to this he was described in the Old Bailey as a firearms enthusiast and living with his two young sisters at the time of the arrest.[207][208]

--source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_ ... and_crimes
They are active enough to be infiltrated by the FBI and the UK intelligence service: http://www.o9a.org/2021/01/here-they-come/
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Well I have fear porn to you: I am a nazi and i work in a post in society, so you can go hide under your bad now
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Snakeway wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:00 pm Well I have fear porn to you: I am a nazi and i work in a post in society, so you can go hide under your bad now
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Nazism is bad because it's racist. They are terrorists. They hate gay people!

I doubt you are a real Nazi. Anybody on the internet can pretend to be anything. You're an internet Nazi. A wannabe Nazi.

You should just stick with Satanism and leave National Socialism for the big boys.
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Henrik Gustav II wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:39 pm
Snakeway wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:00 pm Well I have fear porn to you: I am a nazi and i work in a post in society, so you can go hide under your bad now
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Nazism is bad because it's racist. They are terrorists. They hate gay people!

I doubt you are a real Nazi. Anybody on the internet can pretend to be anything. You're an internet Nazi. A wannabe Nazi.

You should just stick with Satanism and leave National Socialism for the big boys.
Oh i am the real deal, one day the world will tremble with me, EVERYTHING I ever desire in my life manifested, and I desire This world to be nazi. I am the Big Boy, all this ONA are the pretenders and poor wannabes.

Nature is racist, have you notice, there are races, we don´t born all the same color, you should revolt against nature, which is what Christians do.

Gays has nothing to do with it.
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Owenavo wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:23 pm What does fear porn mean? Lol, never heard of that
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Snakeway wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:46 pm
Henrik Gustav II wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:39 pm
Snakeway wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:00 pm Well I have fear porn to you: I am a nazi and i work in a post in society, so you can go hide under your bad now
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Nazism is bad because it's racist. They are terrorists. They hate gay people!

I doubt you are a real Nazi. Anybody on the internet can pretend to be anything. You're an internet Nazi. A wannabe Nazi.

You should just stick with Satanism and leave National Socialism for the big boys.
Oh i am the real deal, one day the world will tremble with me, EVERYTHING I ever desire in my life manifested, and I desire This world to be nazi. I am the Big Boy, all this ONA are the pretenders and poor wannabes.

Nature is racist, have you notice, there are races, we don´t born all the same color, you should revolt against nature, which is what Christians do.

Gays has nothing to do with it.
Trust me, I've seen and interacted with ONA members. You don't have what it takes to be an ONA member. Their seven degrees of initiation would make you cry:

https://archive.org/details/AComplete ... /mode/2up

ONA members are real criminals, rapists, and terrorists. What are you? You're just a believer in Nazism.

LOL!!!
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