What year do you bet this forum and organization goes down

[Velcro]

Doesn't make sense to me, i see some contradictions here.
Also what is best for Satan anyways? don't you think it's retard inefficient(and dumb) for 'Beelzebub' to say he does what is best for Satan and not tell you what is best for Satan....

He said you have to try to talk and get along even if you were wronged and abused and you are inocent and the other person committed crimes against you, he said to think about a special motive for yourself in SOLIDARITY, he meant motive for ''yoursel'' was for Satan.

Did Satan/Beelzebub tell you this, or did you just make this assumption yourself?

He didn't said in this words biut it was my conclusion of his actions and behaviour

I say this is contradictory because you claim that Satan is healing your soul, so naturally wouldn't Satan want you to be well?
if anyone is making moves against you, shouldn't that be against Satan? and shouldn't your wellbeing be in alignment with what is best for Satan?

He helps me improve there is no fighting or taking sides involved in healing me, He doesn't see it this way from my personal experience, it's other people fighting. Your well being is not allign in what is best for Satan but in what is best for yourself, you can go to Satan for guidance and he is open to listening to you and helping you, but he does not watch over you this way, if something is happening to you you have to convince him to help you by asking and getting his attention.

tell me, how exactly is Satan 'healing' your soul, is there proof of this, or any sort of evidence that it's him? and that your soul is being healed?
because if he is healing your soul, that'd mean he cares about your wellbeing, and that Beelzebub would in-fact intervene if someone is attacks you.

He is healing because I asked, how will beelzebubintervene if he doesn't know what is happening? do you think he is ever present? You will have to get his attention, and when he does how will he know what is happening and for what reason? you can get a hard time convincing him he should intervene and he won't care about your beefs in my experience.

Look at their behaviour there in their organization, does it seems to you like they hold anything? Dos it seems to you like people can't curse to death each other? I promise you if you let your guard down things will start not to make sense in this matter if this is the way you think. I share some of your indignation, but it is the way it is from my personal experience. Don't believe me if you don't want

Well this was very interesting, thanks for sharing,

He is healing because I asked, how will beelzebubintervene if he doesn't know what is happening?

Well considering that it's Satan who's healing you, and you said Beelzebub wants what's best for Satan, I'd naturally assume that Beelzebub would know or Satan would tell him for something, i doubt he'd just stand idly if someone were to start working against what Satan's doing.

Look at their behaviour there in their organization,

You mean the JOS?
i have read a lot of their material and visit their forums often, they do seem to believe Beelzebub intervenes and 'punishes' SS who curse each other, i don't really know if this has ever been confirmed.
but i have noted there was an SS complaining that they were being abused by another Satanist(physically) and despite wanting to fight back, they didn't because infighting is against Satan.

from the way it looks to me, they(the demons) don't really give a shit.

The official stance is that Beelzebut will punish any Satanist cursing eachother or nullifies the curses sort of. Again, this is Jos official stance.

Also Maxine said that all the witches/wizzards and other magic practitioners independent or affiliated to other places - are under Satan's protection.

[Snakeway]

The official stance is that Beelzebut will punish any Satanist cursing eachother or nullifies the curses sort of. Again, this is Jos official stance.

Also Maxine said that all the witches/wizzards and other magic practitioners independent or affiliated to other places - are under Satan's protection.

Then try to curse hooded cobra or lydia or anyone there and see for yourself

[Velcro]

The official stance is that Beelzebut will punish any Satanist cursing eachother or nullifies the curses sort of. Again, this is Jos official stance.

Also Maxine said that all the witches/wizzards and other magic practitioners independent or affiliated to other places - are under Satan's protection.

Then try to curse hooded cobra or lydia or anyone there. He doesn't appear or interrupt it

I believe you they won't stop it unless is seriously a life a death situation or because they can't oversee everything and everyone at once. Whatever the reason I just said what the Jos is officality stating.

As for myself, I never cursed any Satanist and I won't. I sent it back and that's it. End of story.

Others however from jos and independent did cursed me before. I remember when you were posting some videos in the political forum with the 'microwave weapon'

Weeks before seeing your post I had a humming in an ear when I wake up. General lethargy and panic attacks ...more or less most symptoms presented in those videos ...I wasn't meditating for some time so I was wirh the guard down. I took action get back on the track and saved myself.


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On other occasions long before that years back Cobra and Lydia cursed me this is what I felt. They like knives and swords astral ones to stab you in your plexus and heart. To be honest with you when this happened I didn't even know how the hell is possible I never had props. I thought that is unnecessary because Maxine said the power of the mind is more than enough. However I did my homework and learned after long reflection what they did.

However I will never curse them. This is up to Satan to decide. I just share my truth and what happened for others to be careful and prepared and that's it.

[Snakeway]

So you already experience it, they cursed you because they know how it is, there is no God minding it. In my understanding it can be even a life and death situation and be the same. It seems they do this all the time. What was the excuse, let me guess ''jew''.

[Velcro]

The official stance is that Beelzebut will punish any Satanist cursing eachother or nullifies the curses sort of. Again, this is Jos official stance.

Also Maxine said that all the witches/wizzards and other magic practitioners independent or affiliated to other places - are under Satan's protection.

Then try to curse hooded cobra or lydia or anyone there. He doesn't appear or interrupt it

I believe you they won't stop it unless is seriously a life a death situation or because they can't oversee everything and everyone at once. Whatever the reason I just said what the Jos is officality stating.

As for myself, I never cursed any Satanist and I won't. I sent it back and that's it. End of story.

Others however from jos and independent did cursed me before. I remember when you were posting some videos in the political forum with the 'microwave weapon'

Weeks before seeing your post I had a humming in an ear when I wake up. General lethargy and panic attacks ...more or less most symptoms presented in those videos ...I wasn't meditating for some time so I was wirh the guard down. I took action get back on the track and saved myself.


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On other occasions long before that years back Cobra and Lydia cursed me this is what I felt. They like knives and swords astral ones to stab you in your plexus and heart. To be honest with you when this happened I didn't even know how the hell is possible I never had props. I thought that is unnecessary because Maxine said the power of the mind is more than enough. However I did my homework and learned after long reflection what they did.

However I will never curse them. This is up to Satan to decide. I just share my truth and what happened for others to be careful and prepared and that's it.

My personal opinion is that EVENTUALLY Satan and Demons will protect the one innocent in a matter and assaulted BUT, Up to the point they will react, you might get wonded or lose some things important.

I also believe these reckless attackers are being punished in a way or another. Sooner or later. The bad part is ...as I said... You might suffer some losses and take time to recover.

The worse is when people lose trust in Satan I know I did at that time. I was confused. But patiently I understood and no one ever again will shake my trust again.

This why the best thing is for people to meditate and have the guard up.

[Snakeway]

How can you not start seeing them with different eyes when they watch crimes being commited against you and do nothing. I mean, even a random human on the street intervene when they see something bad happen. The demons can put a loving energy in you and you believe to be loved then they act with extreme indiference toward you in that different situation, they are colder than a stranger on the streets. there will never be a punishment, the gods don't do this sort of things unless is something against Satan or themselves personally. The thing is YOU can do this to the offender and you won't be punished nor stopped neither

[Snakeway]

Velcro, do you believe they were able to attack you because you participated in the RTR? Don't you think they ''found'' you in the spiritrual world nd were connected to you spiritually because the RTR's made this possible?

[Velcro]

How can you not start seeing them with different eyes when they watch crimes being commited against you and do nothing. I mean, even a random human on the street intervene when they see something bad happen. The demons can put a loving energy in you and you believe to be loved then they act with extreme indiference toward you in that different situation, they are colder than a stranger on the streets. there will never be a punishment, the gods don't do this sort of things unless is something against Satan or themselves personally. The thing is YOU can do this to the offender and you won't be punished nor stopped neither

You know they are not omnipresent so this might be a reason. Also TIME. By the time you are being attacked they might not be there to stop it so you might get wounded not finished but wounded enough.

I trust them and their judgement but at the same time I look after myself and try not to harm others from vanity or a brick of the moment/impulsiveness. I take my power with responsibility.

I will take into account your opinion as well and as the time goes, I will share other experiences. Or of anything changes from my perspective.

Also I was stupid in a while neglecting something important about work. They warn me to correct this asap or danger might arose. I did not listen and the inevitable happen. What I notice about a lot of Satanist people Cobra included - Demons tell them something and they do otherwise. Why the ask advice in the first place, I don't know. I know I did the same.

And again, the best for anybody is personal protection and not relying on anybody be it Demon or human.

[Velcro]

I would also like you to consider the following

You want to become a Living God.

This is more than getting a PHD. Building a billion dollar estate or owning a country. BECOMING A GOD IS A HUGE ULTIMATE AMBITION.

In order to do this people need to become SELF RELIANT. RESPONSABILE, FOCUSED, ORGANISED. Etc

The GODS needs us in this WAR. By becoming co-dependant and forever needy, we won't learn anything. We will stay forever babies and they needs us, as well!

Just think about it. If you ask why they don't put an aura over you to protect you at all time, you wont learn to recognise an attack when is due, how to handle it and etc...A bit of PAIN helps the process of growing is natural and part of life and evolution.

If I ask myself why they allowed the curses on me, next question is why they don't transfer a million, or why they don't live my life.

Also remember about FREE WILL. They respect that. But there are consequences NOT NECESSARY COMING FROM THEM, but from life and nature itself.

Take as an example people cursing all day long. They are wasting energy, they infuse in themselves a lot of negativity, they become neurotic and so on. There have to be a balance in everything we do and good reasoning.

[Snakeway]

This would apply for everything but not when coming from their own people, the harm is coming from themselves by extension. Imagine the Gods helped some of them to meditate and advance and some of them attack you, isn't it like the gods are attacking you with their own hands? Aren't them accessories to this act?

It is a common trait from abusers to blame the victim, when the truth is there is never an excuse for you to be abused, ''you didn't meditate'', ''you were not advanced''. from the point of view of abusers there is an excuse for EVERYTHING to make the victim feel is their own fault, this is how this people operate. You will never be a healthy individual and improve your soul in my opinion if you think there are excuses to be abused, THERE IS NON in any circunstance nobody can lay a finger on you, it was not your fault. The agressors and abuser must pay, it is their fault. It is part of advancing healing the soul with Justice