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[Velcro]

You should get infuriated ,because the only thing that stops the person who cursed you from killing you, taking things away from you or destroying your life is the capability, they are just not strong enough but the intention to do perverse things to you is there, and if they were strong enough to kill you they would. This is unforgivable, and you should want to completly eliminate the threat mercyless.

I know what you mean...thank you for you kindness.

I will address this to Satan if I will get the chance.
Thank you for your considerations.

Let me know how he addresses it. Pm me if needed

Yes. will do

[Seeker83]

What about socialization? Do you get along with people who bless those who curse you? I don't. How do you get along with the Gods if they bless those who curse you? If they don't enforce Justice they are putting a social wall against you forever, they are saying they never wanted anything to do with you

This is a not a god problem. This is a human problem and it's often they put each other on a pedestal.

Are you saying the Gods don't have human emotions? That they are some ET that are different than Humans?

I did not say that. Satanism is about defending yourself and being strong the "gods" don't want us relying on them for everything. That would be annoying if I was relied on for a lot of stuff. They want us to be strong. Well technically Mamba summed it up in the philosophy about elevating the self. Any real god or whatever would support this. Any god that needing worship or whatever is not your friend. So naturally because of this the cursing and crap is human fault and no god is blessing anyone on those trying to curse an individual who better themselves! It's said elsewhere those who love us will guide us on this path til we can be strong and defend ourselves. If it gets too much they will step in to help.

[AnonPoster]

What about socialization? Do you get along with people who bless those who curse you? I don't. How do you get along with the Gods if they bless those who curse you? If they don't enforce Justice they are putting a social wall against you forever, they are saying they never wanted anything to do with you

This is a not a god problem. This is a human problem and it's often they put each other on a pedestal.

Are you saying the Gods don't have human emotions? That they are some ET that are different than Humans?

Humans and their needs are dumb and hard to deal with often.

[Snakeway]

This is a not a god problem. This is a human problem and it's often they put each other on a pedestal.

Are you saying the Gods don't have human emotions? That they are some ET that are different than Humans?

Humans and their needs are dumb and hard to deal with often.

They are not. Human nature is not a sin

[AnonPoster]

Are you saying the Gods don't have human emotions? That they are some ET that are different than Humans?

Humans and their needs are dumb and hard to deal with often.

They are not. Human nature is not a sin

Well then you go interact with silly full humans then. I gaurentee you that you will not be saying "human nature is great" then.

[Snakeway]

Humans and their needs are dumb and hard to deal with often.

They are not. Human nature is not a sin

Well then you go interact with silly full humans then. I gaurentee you that you will not be saying "human nature is great" then.

Humans become silly when they go against their nature being christian and believing their nature is a sin. Humans would be great without the sin mentality aka blocking their own nature

[Edrix]

This makes a lot of sense, and it's the conclusion i come to as well,
and since people who're in JOS are conditioned into thinking that demons are more advanced, knowledge and powerful than they are, they naturally take a submissive stance towards demons, they end up unknowingly submitting to the random entity they're connected too, this is why most of them go crazy.

Yes many spirits pretend being other beings or some names are simply titles.

I recently was visited by a Wendigo. Didn't know what is that I asked a friend and told me it might be a wendigo and send me this pic which was shockingly 90% exactly of what I saw:





He asked me 'Do you believe in Satan?'in a bit ruthless manner, from what I am usually accostomed in dialogue with Demons.

It was strange but I asked his name. He said is Asmodeus.

After chatting a little bit, Satan came as well. Or at least this is who he introduced himself...

And I left my astral temple. I was confused seeing two opposing beings one very dark and strange somehow and another extremely light and vibrant

My guess is Satan came indeed to prohibit me from talking any longer with this imposter. However is just an interpretation... I just said what I saw ...

Thx for sharing, i forgot to ask, but i'm curious, that entity said he was Asmodeus, did he tell you this via some sort of telepathy or something, how did you hear him?
and what about Satan, did he speak as well as say he was Satan?
do you communicate with telepathy?

[Edrix]

Hey thank you for the comment.

The best attack is defence. I remove and send back the curses generally. I dont need to think about it. If Satan considers my offenders worth much worse is up to him. I say this when it comes to brothers and sisters in Satan.
My personal life goes slightly different I am builder I build people.
I put boundaries. Respect aka boundaries is imposed never earned. I know people think the other way around which is stupid. You will never get what you deserve if you are waiting for it. My friends know what to expect if they will ever do something intentionally bad to me. I also needs others to forgive my shit, so I also forgive where is the case. However, I don't abuse and I am not allowing abuse.


Cobra is spiritually strong. Many people underestimate his power. I am not talking about his power of character or other things. He is spiritually talented, multitalented powers. Only another person I know who is inherently far beyond that. I am not saying this to scare people off. I am saying all of this so people don't underestimate him.

People come to Satan and confuse him with Jesus who watches over them strictly 24a day and grant personal wishes and favoures. Whatever cases you heard on Jos some might be real and based on karma, some might be based on FREE WILL AND STUBBORNESS OF PEOPLE as an example how many PEOPLE know is bad to smoke, take drugs hung with the wrong people. All of them. However some are INSISTING on doing shit hoping that Satan will save their asses if the shit hits the fan. This is ARRONGANT from their side. As a parent I would boil.

So where was I? Karma, free will, people insisting to be stupid, jewish and gipsy members, fabricated posts and stories to make people afraid or lose trust in Satan, etc

Satan is a person with great power but not omnipotent omnipresent and most of the time his view is not as many would cry based on their subjective angle. Like Snakeway hating Maxine. Maxine did a good thing. Introduced many to him. Exposed jews. She also did a lot of shit. If she had an agenda all along I Don't know. But for the good that she did I can appreciate her. So I guess Satan can appreciate it too and see the benefits of keeping her alive for others to find him instead of killing her because she offended let's say Snakeway. Its a way you can look at things. So when Cobra attacked me I understood that Satan needs him. On the other hand Cobra always abuses this shit. He does a lot of Satan agenda and a lot of shit to people hoping that after all the good the shit will be forgiven in Satan's eyes. I don't know how-to explain this better. I hope I make some sense.

Now with all due respect I am sorry if I did not answered to other things, I simply need to stop here. Thank you once again for your reply and time.

Cobra is spiritually strong. Many people underestimate his power. I am not talking about his power of character or other things. He is spiritually talented,

He's not, in what way is he talented exactly?
Because i've seen his incompetence and inability to tell that one of his buddies was a jew.
Cobra is ultimately just a pawn, just like in xianity there are people who worship bitches like the virgin mary and other such bullshit, cobra is just a focal point for people to direct their energies too, that's why most people are so brainwashed and praise him like that, he himself has no power, but those entities that pull his strings do have power.

some might be real and based on karma, some might be based on FREE WILL AND STUBBORNESS OF PEOPLE

Karma? what exactly is your definition of karma, because quite frankly the mundane understanding of karma i.e that bad people attract bad things and good people attract good things does not make sense to me.
Do you see this in nature? do you see this in the wild?
out there in nature, the wild, it's do or die, animals don't care about good or bad, to them it doesn't exist, what matters is survival.
you think your white blood cells in your body thinks if destroying any foreign contaminants in your body is good or bad?
if they did, you'd probably be dead.

If i a lion killed some of your family and friends, what are you going to hope for? that karma gives that lion sort 'divine' judgment? what's 'just' about that, that lion is just trying to survive another day, if karma killed that lion in turn, it would bring your loved ones back.
nature doesn't care about good or bad, it cares about survival.

Another thing about free will, don't you think that's more complicated in 'Satanism' due to how magical workings can bind/force others into doing certain things,
even certain demons are known to force people to do certain things, like fall in love, fight etc.

So when Cobra attacked me I understood that Satan needs him.

Someone as powerful as Satan needs someone like cobra?
if Satan was so powerful why would he depend on someone like cobra, if anything from my perspective that just makes Satan look pathetic, that he'd 'need' someone like cobra.
Did Satan tell you this? where exactly did you derive your understanding that Satan needs him.

I've personally seen cobra screw over people by spreading lies about them and screwing them over financially.

Do you know how some people become big criminals?
they start of small, like stealing small things, then they get away with it, this makes them more bold, and they end up commiting bigger crimes, the more they get away with it, they more bold they come, to the point where they cause serious damage.

Like eric for example, he pointed how cobra publicly slandered him, guess what, he didn't stay quiet about it and let Satan make his judgement for him, he publicly defended himself by sharing his side of the story.
No one has to 'tolerate' any sort of abuse from cobra, cobra is only like that because he knows he can get away with it most of the time, because of the JOS's laws of infighting, these people just end up taking abuse.
look at this,
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=42329
that's what tolerance looks like.
and look at those in the replies, trying to define what a 'Satanist' is, in reality they only consider people who did the dedicated ritual to be 'Satanist' so who exactly defines who is a Satanist or not?
shouldn't it be Satan who defines who he is with him or not.

and what about the people who've been slandered, abused, or taken advantage of by cobra, are they supposed to consider him a 'Satanist' or not?

[Velcro]

This makes a lot of sense, and it's the conclusion i come to as well,
and since people who're in JOS are conditioned into thinking that demons are more advanced, knowledge and powerful than they are, they naturally take a submissive stance towards demons, they end up unknowingly submitting to the random entity they're connected too, this is why most of them go crazy.

Yes many spirits pretend being other beings or some names are simply titles.

I recently was visited by a Wendigo. Didn't know what is that I asked a friend and told me it might be a wendigo and send me this pic which was shockingly 90% exactly of what I saw:





He asked me 'Do you believe in Satan?'in a bit ruthless manner, from what I am usually accostomed in dialogue with Demons.

It was strange but I asked his name. He said is Asmodeus.

After chatting a little bit, Satan came as well. Or at least this is who he introduced himself...

And I left my astral temple. I was confused seeing two opposing beings one very dark and strange somehow and another extremely light and vibrant

My guess is Satan came indeed to prohibit me from talking any longer with this imposter. However is just an interpretation... I just said what I saw ...

Thx for sharing, i forgot to ask, but i'm curious, that entity said he was Asmodeus, did he tell you this via some sort of telepathy or something, how did you hear him?
and what about Satan, did he speak as well as say he was Satan?
do you communicate with telepathy?

I will try my best to explain it so I was in my astral temple. Speaking with Satan and all the Gods as per general sharing my general troubles about things. On most occasions years back a Demon would appear never Satan. Most of the time nobody but it's mostly a refuge where I like the meditate. There the meditation are 10 times stronger in my experience

First being appeared and I wasn't scared but surprised because he looked like a mythological wild being. And had a cold approached. Demons knows me read me instantly somehow this being either did not trust me or was suspicious about my alliance to Satan hence his first question.
Also strange he spoke in English not my native language demons did not do this to me in other experiences.

The communication was some sort of telepathy I couldn't distinguish an exact voice. I would focus on him via void meditation but let it flow ...A combination of this sort.

Moving my attention from one to another I felt strange. I also was in a deep trance for some time I couldn't stay any longer I was all stuck so I left the temple.

I don't know up to this day what actually happened and who was who and why.

Yeah you can call it telepathy. I think even if a being is outside yourself it's still telephaty no one else will hear it except you even if you distinguish voices...you can't record it. It must be always telepathy. You can always call it telepathy


What I also want to share as very strange-. the next few hours I read this purely accidentaly:

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=66395

In the above looks like Asmodeus Sydonay is a candidate to Satan Lucifer.
strange. it was the first time 2 beings where in the same room with me.

Before reading this article my guess was that Satan came to guarantee for both parties as I was not terrified but somehow unsure about this dark being and somehow this dark being didn't seem to trust me too much either....

After reading this article I asked myself like really what happened. If Satan came to rescue me. If none of the Demons maybe some copy tulpas where there. Mayne one was tupas. Maybe both. Maybe none? Anything is possible. It wasn't my imagination this is the only thing I am sure about but I don't know about the rest.

[Seeker83]

Hey thank you for the comment.

The best attack is defence. I remove and send back the curses generally. I dont need to think about it. If Satan considers my offenders worth much worse is up to him. I say this when it comes to brothers and sisters in Satan.
My personal life goes slightly different I am builder I build people.
I put boundaries. Respect aka boundaries is imposed never earned. I know people think the other way around which is stupid. You will never get what you deserve if you are waiting for it. My friends know what to expect if they will ever do something intentionally bad to me. I also needs others to forgive my shit, so I also forgive where is the case. However, I don't abuse and I am not allowing abuse.


Cobra is spiritually strong. Many people underestimate his power. I am not talking about his power of character or other things. He is spiritually talented, multitalented powers. Only another person I know who is inherently far beyond that. I am not saying this to scare people off. I am saying all of this so people don't underestimate him.

People come to Satan and confuse him with Jesus who watches over them strictly 24a day and grant personal wishes and favoures. Whatever cases you heard on Jos some might be real and based on karma, some might be based on FREE WILL AND STUBBORNESS OF PEOPLE as an example how many PEOPLE know is bad to smoke, take drugs hung with the wrong people. All of them. However some are INSISTING on doing shit hoping that Satan will save their asses if the shit hits the fan. This is ARRONGANT from their side. As a parent I would boil.

So where was I? Karma, free will, people insisting to be stupid, jewish and gipsy members, fabricated posts and stories to make people afraid or lose trust in Satan, etc

Satan is a person with great power but not omnipotent omnipresent and most of the time his view is not as many would cry based on their subjective angle. Like Snakeway hating Maxine. Maxine did a good thing. Introduced many to him. Exposed jews. She also did a lot of shit. If she had an agenda all along I Don't know. But for the good that she did I can appreciate her. So I guess Satan can appreciate it too and see the benefits of keeping her alive for others to find him instead of killing her because she offended let's say Snakeway. Its a way you can look at things. So when Cobra attacked me I understood that Satan needs him. On the other hand Cobra always abuses this shit. He does a lot of Satan agenda and a lot of shit to people hoping that after all the good the shit will be forgiven in Satan's eyes. I don't know how-to explain this better. I hope I make some sense.

Now with all due respect I am sorry if I did not answered to other things, I simply need to stop here. Thank you once again for your reply and time.

Cobra is spiritually strong. Many people underestimate his power. I am not talking about his power of character or other things. He is spiritually talented,

He's not, in what way is he talented exactly?
Because i've seen his incompetence and inability to tell that one of his buddies was a jew.
Cobra is ultimately just a pawn, just like in xianity there are people who worship bitches like the virgin mary and other such bullshit, cobra is just a focal point for people to direct their energies too, that's why most people are so brainwashed and praise him like that, he himself has no power, but those entities that pull his strings do have power.

some might be real and based on karma, some might be based on FREE WILL AND STUBBORNESS OF PEOPLE

Karma? what exactly is your definition of karma, because quite frankly the mundane understanding of karma i.e that bad people attract bad things and good people attract good things does not make sense to me.
Do you see this in nature? do you see this in the wild?
out there in nature, the wild, it's do or die, animals don't care about good or bad, to them it doesn't exist, what matters is survival.
you think your white blood cells in your body thinks if destroying any foreign contaminants in your body is good or bad?
if they did, you'd probably be dead.

If i a lion killed some of your family and friends, what are you going to hope for? that karma gives that lion sort 'divine' judgment? what's 'just' about that, that lion is just trying to survive another day, if karma killed that lion in turn, it would bring your loved ones back.
nature doesn't care about good or bad, it cares about survival.

Another thing about free will, don't you think that's more complicated in 'Satanism' due to how magical workings can bind/force others into doing certain things,
even certain demons are known to force people to do certain things, like fall in love, fight etc.

So when Cobra attacked me I understood that Satan needs him.

Someone as powerful as Satan needs someone like cobra?
if Satan was so powerful why would he depend on someone like cobra, if anything from my perspective that just makes Satan look pathetic, that he'd 'need' someone like cobra.
Did Satan tell you this? where exactly did you derive your understanding that Satan needs him.

I've personally seen cobra screw over people by spreading lies about them and screwing them over financially.

Do you know how some people become big criminals?
they start of small, like stealing small things, then they get away with it, this makes them more bold, and they end up commiting bigger crimes, the more they get away with it, they more bold they come, to the point where they cause serious damage.

Like eric for example, he pointed how cobra publicly slandered him, guess what, he didn't stay quiet about it and let Satan make his judgement for him, he publicly defended himself by sharing his side of the story.
No one has to 'tolerate' any sort of abuse from cobra, cobra is only like that because he knows he can get away with it most of the time, because of the JOS's laws of infighting, these people just end up taking abuse.
look at this,
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=42329
that's what tolerance looks like.
and look at those in the replies, trying to define what a 'Satanist' is, in reality they only consider people who did the dedicated ritual to be 'Satanist' so who exactly defines who is a Satanist or not?
shouldn't it be Satan who defines who he is with him or not.

and what about the people who've been slandered, abused, or taken advantage of by cobra, are they supposed to consider him a 'Satanist' or not?

That's so true. And it's a fuckin problem. No one has a right to define what's what. Especially any gods or goddesses