Weird contradiction in Satanism

[Varun]

Okay there is something that is bugging me now... I will just come shortly to post this because I'm finding it really weird and funny

So Satanism is mostly about personal freedom and focusing on yourself and bettering yourself. It's about not accepting anybody controlling you. It's about being yourself who you are supposed to be....But ALL I keep hearing when talking to any Satanist (AMONG FIRST THINGS I USUALLY HEAR) is " Satanists shouldn't do this, Satanists should do that, you shouldn't be like this..."

So much for being yourself and doing what you want...Plenty of hardcore Satanists live by the set of strict rules. Doesn't matter if are you a Spiritual Satanist or some other type of a Satanist, usually after teaching you that all Satanists are valuing freedom a lot, next thing they will try to tell you is how to behave and what to do. So fuck me what is going in here? Do this, do that...

While I was SS I was myself feeling rather chained and I saw many others being deeply suffocated by some crazy set of rules and they were forced to feel like they are supposed to bow down to Maxine or Cobra and listen and trust blindly like they don't even possess their own brains if they want to be "a real Satanists". All I see left there is broken people who think they are cool because they are calling themselves Satanists while being more trapped and suffocated by their authority figures and some crazy rules. It's simply crazy how contradicting this is.
P.S. if you can't be happy and well as it is while being part of that group, you are a jew ofc...



People are often taking everything to the extremes.

Saying how you are supposed to follow some X philosophy or religion or program and you are supposed to be free there. Then suddenly everyone who belongs there with you will start suffocating you with rules on how to be free and will try to dictate you on how to be free. You yourself might start limiting and controlling yourself in a way where you will start losing your freedom.
Say how you should take care of yourself and your body, and many people will take it to the extreme and start trying to impose to themselves and others some crazy dietary regimes and some rather weird and suffocating lifestyle to be followed strictly. In many cases those things can even be dangerous, but they will try to force you into it. Even if you don't feel good with something and things are going badly for you, you are supposed to follow. People are just fucked up in the head and that's it.

What I want to say is that tons of Satanists are trapping themselves and others and there is no freedom in that. I am finding it contradicting.. Anyway don't take anything to the extremes, you will get nowhere. Don't take those people too seriously when they are telling you what to do, just do what is okay and what is actually really helping you and what is making you happy. You can take advices and discuss things with others, but don't let anybody or anything to trap you. Be natural, this is simply my advice to you...

[Varun]

When Spiritual Satanists say how they are elite and wolves but all I see is this...

[AnonPoster]

I have come to the conclusion that SS often mistake freedom for arrogance, rebellion and opposition. Just because they are not "christians" anymore they think they are free.

But sadly they are in a similar environment.. under another name, but with similar results as christianity.

They proclaim themselves to be free and just while developing a hypocritical persona. They are all great and mighty until they do something other SS do not. Thats when they become kikes in the eyes of other SS... because they dared to be themselves or act a bit different.


They often mistake truth for imposing beliefs and customs. And they often turn their backs on everyone no matter who you are if you do the sin of thinking of yourself.


That is why in my eyes they havent changed much. They stopped calling themselves christians, but they follow the same customs under different names.


Even Maxine once said that Satanism is not an opposition to christianity. And that there are a lot of similarities.

[Snakeway]

In the MOS people are Satanists or not, depending on how they benefit the clergy in a personal way, not based on some OBJECTIVE virtues. It is Just like christianity where if you donate money to the local church you become the most holy man in town just because you are serving the christian priest personal project of power, even if you who gave the money never cared about christianity in your heart. I think the MOS behave the same, if you lick their ass and cope with their personal goals of power you are the ''most satanic'', instead of the measuring about who is satanic or not being something objective. THIS IS CHRISTIAN. Satanism should not be like this, it should be OBJECTIVE and measurable who is satanic or not. You can see this problem in how they call people Jews, it is entirely subjective, a Jew for them is someone they don't like or someone who is not coping with their personal goals, while it should be an objective thing, like someone descendant of Jew or have a Jewish soul with 5 chakras instead of 7, and a person would only be a Jew if they would fit this OBJECTIVE criterias. But they basicly turned calling someone a Jew into how a christian call someone heretic, a jew is someone that don't lick their ass


I think the RTRs are the great disaster, because they will enforce this christian social pact in a personal level and you will be at their hands, making their mental control behaviour something that can actually reach you, and not be some laughable meaningless internet thing.

[Velcro]

In the MOS people are Satanists or not, depending on how they benefit the clergy in a personal way, not based on some OBJECTIVE virtues. It is Just like christianity where if you donate money to the local church you become the most holy man in town just because you are serving the christian priest personal project of power, even if you who gave the money never cared about christianity in your heart. I think the MOS behave the same, if you lick their ass and cope with their personal goals of power you are the ''most satanic'', instead of the measuring about who is satanic or not being something objective. THIS IS CHRISTIAN. Satanism should not be like this, it should be OBJECTIVE and measurable who is satanic or not. You can see this problem in how they call people Jews, it is entirely subjective, a Jew for them is someone they don't like or someone who is not coping with their personal goals, while it should be an objective thing, like someone descendant of Jew or have a Jewish soul with 5 chakras instead of 7, and a person would only be a Jew if they would fit this OBJECTIVE criterias. But they basicly turned calling someone a Jew into how a christian call someone heretic, a jew is someone that don't lick their ass


I think the RTRs are the great disaster, because they will enforce this christian social pact in a personal level and you will be at their hands, making their mental control behaviour something that can actually reach you, and not be some laughable meaningless internet thing.

They appreciate the weak just like chrisians. They see you great and mighty, they put you down. You are coming there weak, they share some sort of compassion which is anyway fake, however, they appreciate it.

If you are great in any way, don't come in the open. The envy and jelosy of people is strong. They want to take your power away. Better work on yourself in silence!

Jos don't want inspirational people around just to level you up to them in a communistic style.


You are an extraordinary person Snakeway, please take a good care of yourself.

[Velcro]

In the MOS people are Satanists or not, depending on how they benefit the clergy in a personal way, not based on some OBJECTIVE virtues. It is Just like christianity where if you donate money to the local church you become the most holy man in town just because you are serving the christian priest personal project of power, even if you who gave the money never cared about christianity in your heart. I think the MOS behave the same, if you lick their ass and cope with their personal goals of power you are the ''most satanic'', instead of the measuring about who is satanic or not being something objective. THIS IS CHRISTIAN. Satanism should not be like this, it should be OBJECTIVE and measurable who is satanic or not. You can see this problem in how they call people Jews, it is entirely subjective, a Jew for them is someone they don't like or someone who is not coping with their personal goals, while it should be an objective thing, like someone descendant of Jew or have a Jewish soul with 5 chakras instead of 7, and a person would only be a Jew if they would fit this OBJECTIVE criterias. But they basicly turned calling someone a Jew into how a christian call someone heretic, a jew is someone that don't lick their ass


I think the RTRs are the great disaster, because they will enforce this christian social pact in a personal level and you will be at their hands, making their mental control behaviour something that can actually reach you, and not be some laughable meaningless internet thing.

They appreciate the weak just like chrisians. They see you great and mighty, they put you down. You are coming there weak, they share some sort of compassion which is anyway fake, however, they appreciate it.

If you are great in any way, don't come in the open. The envy and jelosy of people is strong. They want to take your power away. Better work on yourself in silence!

Jos don't want inspirational people around just to level you up to them in a communistic style.


You are an extraordinary person Snakeway, please take a good care of yourself.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=68083

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=68092


Two recent examples of members who want to kill themsevels

There was another guy which sister died and was serching for some compassion. Family is family for the good and bad times isn't it? Jos pretends being your family. Cobra told him to come back when he is feeling better and did not allow other posts. So much compassion and understanding.

Keep up the RTRs guys, if we try to warn you how unhealthy it is, we must be the enemy.

I wrote to Cobra in the last years MANY TIMES about the disaster that's coming. I saw it coming. I tried to prevent it. I did it in private to not play the smart ass or undermine his authority. I did it for Satan and for our family in Satan. What I got in return - curses and my life falling apart. I learned my lesson to main my own shit. Not only that people don't appreciate the effort and time, but they will punish you for it.

Everybody is so sensitive to any criticism ask yourself if you are happy with how you are why are you bothering coming to spiritually then? All of this is to become the best version of yourself and learning from everybody!


Anyway, I requested this account to be deleted here. I need to put my life in order now. The rest it's up to Satan. I did sacrifice myself enough.

[Snakeway]

They appreciate the weak just like chrisians. They see you great and mighty, they put you down. You are coming there weak, they share some sort of compassion which is anyway fake, however, they appreciate it.

If you are great in any way, don't come in the open. The envy and jelosy of people is strong. They want to take your power away. Better work on yourself in silence!

I agree with what you said here 100%. the problem is how are you going to work on yourself in silence if you somehow decide to do the RTR's while not being aware they will connect to your soul and will 100% work as a force to bring you down in this communistic way the way you just describe it in your post?. I think the Gods should destroy and punish them for this. Where are the people exposing this? Is everyone so fucked up in life that they enjoy MOSers destroying the lives of people who are not fucked up or what? What is going on here?

I always my entire life underestimated the destructive power of envy. People are drived by this feeling of envy and can actually live a life based on it.

And now that You are making sense you have to leave? keep on saying your piece, don't sentence you have to leave at least, stop posting but don't delete your account, so when you feel like posting you will not feel like you are not living by your word because you once said you would leave

[AnonPoster]

In the MOS people are Satanists or not, depending on how they benefit the clergy in a personal way, not based on some OBJECTIVE virtues. It is Just like christianity where if you donate money to the local church you become the most holy man in town just because you are serving the christian priest personal project of power, even if you who gave the money never cared about christianity in your heart. I think the MOS behave the same, if you lick their ass and cope with their personal goals of power you are the ''most satanic'', instead of the measuring about who is satanic or not being something objective. THIS IS CHRISTIAN. Satanism should not be like this, it should be OBJECTIVE and measurable who is satanic or not. You can see this problem in how they call people Jews, it is entirely subjective, a Jew for them is someone they don't like or someone who is not coping with their personal goals, while it should be an objective thing, like someone descendant of Jew or have a Jewish soul with 5 chakras instead of 7, and a person would only be a Jew if they would fit this OBJECTIVE criterias. But they basicly turned calling someone a Jew into how a christian call someone heretic, a jew is someone that don't lick their ass


I think the RTRs are the great disaster, because they will enforce this christian social pact in a personal level and you will be at their hands, making their mental control behaviour something that can actually reach you, and not be some laughable meaningless internet thing.

They appreciate the weak just like chrisians. They see you great and mighty, they put you down. You are coming there weak, they share some sort of compassion which is anyway fake, however, they appreciate it.

If you are great in any way, don't come in the open. The envy and jelosy of people is strong. They want to take your power away. Better work on yourself in silence!

Jos don't want inspirational people around just to level you up to them in a communistic style.


You are an extraordinary person Snakeway, please take a good care of yourself.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=68083

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=68092


Two recent examples of members who want to kill themsevels

There was another guy which sister died and was serching for some compassion. Family is family for the good and bad times isn't it? Jos pretends being your family. Cobra told him to come back when he is feeling better and did not allow other posts. So much compassion and understanding.

Keep up the RTRs guys, if we try to warn you how unhealthy it is, we must be the enemy.

I wrote to Cobra in the last years MANY TIMES about the disaster that's coming. I saw it coming. I tried to prevent it. I did it in private to not play the smart ass or undermine his authority. I did it for Satan and for our family in Satan. What I got in return - curses and my life falling apart. I learned my lesson to main my own shit. Not only that people don't appreciate the effort and time, but they will punish you for it.

Everybody is so sensitive to any criticism ask yourself if you are happy with how you are why are you bothering coming to spiritually then? All of this is to become the best version of yourself and learning from everybody!


Anyway, I requested this account to be deleted here. I need to put my life in order now. The rest it's up to Satan. I did sacrifice myself enough.

Good luck to you!

[AnonPoster]

They appreciate the weak just like chrisians. They see you great and mighty, they put you down. You are coming there weak, they share some sort of compassion which is anyway fake, however, they appreciate it.

If you are great in any way, don't come in the open. The envy and jelosy of people is strong. They want to take your power away. Better work on yourself in silence!

I agree with what you said here 100%. the problem is how are you going to work on yourself in silence if you somehow decide to do the RTR's while not being aware they will connect to your soul and will 100% work as a force to bring you down in this communistic way the way you just describe it in your post?. I think the Gods should destroy and punish them for this. Where are the people exposing this? Is everyone so fucked up in life that they enjoy MOSers destroying the lives of people who are not fucked up or what? What is going on here?

I always my entire life underestimated the destructive power of envy. People are drived by this feeling of envy and can actually live a life based on it.

And now that You are making sense you have to leave? keep on saying your piece, don't sentence you have to leave at least, stop posting but don't delete your account, so when you feel like posting you will not feel like you are not living by your word because you once said you would leave

Ahhh the one who believes in MOS as stupid and yet still acts like a shithead Nazi

[Snakeway]

They appreciate the weak just like chrisians. They see you great and mighty, they put you down. You are coming there weak, they share some sort of compassion which is anyway fake, however, they appreciate it.

If you are great in any way, don't come in the open. The envy and jelosy of people is strong. They want to take your power away. Better work on yourself in silence!

I agree with what you said here 100%. the problem is how are you going to work on yourself in silence if you somehow decide to do the RTR's while not being aware they will connect to your soul and will 100% work as a force to bring you down in this communistic way the way you just describe it in your post?. I think the Gods should destroy and punish them for this. Where are the people exposing this? Is everyone so fucked up in life that they enjoy MOSers destroying the lives of people who are not fucked up or what? What is going on here?

I always my entire life underestimated the destructive power of envy. People are drived by this feeling of envy and can actually live a life based on it.

And now that You are making sense you have to leave? keep on saying your piece, don't sentence you have to leave at least, stop posting but don't delete your account, so when you feel like posting you will not feel like you are not living by your word because you once said you would leave

Ahhh the one who believes in MOS as stupid and yet still acts like a shithead Nazi

They don't act like Nazis, they accept race Mixing