About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

[AnonPoster]

I was just expressing my opinion. Lol

I am not offended
I am not crying

There is noone questioning no one just people sharing personal experiences

I don't mock varun & Agni. I simply laugh I have a funny mood. I respect differences of opinion. Now I won't be writing an essay contradicting them or something.

Oh sorry my bad

[BirdofFreedom]

You are free to look yourself. This is the only way to prove a fact.

Varun, I, and others can talk all day. It only becomes a fact if you experience it yourself.

Even Don had something going on for a while. He was indeed pointing at some thoughtforms that try to portray Satan. This probably came as a shock to him and he started to believe that the gods are not real or that they are evil. He got to a point and stayed there. Maybe he even got attacked by those thoughtforms.

But here is the issue, are you willing to experience, to see, to sense? Not saying you in particular. But some prefer to stick to what they have learned so far. Then they say no to any change.

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Being human is what it means to be alive, a lot of people seem to forget this.

But honestly, are people like Vraum going to pretend they know the affairs of entities that are listed as literal royalty even in the Goetia.

Being royalty doesnt mean you cant talk or communicate with people. Usually you get even more attention because of it.

How does that translate to not knowing what is going on? Plus Varun is close to them, she usually is around them. She is witnessing the events as they are or at least through her perspective. Another plus is that she can always ask what is going on.

For the past few months she is spending a lot of time around them. Maybe this does translate to gaining knowledge of some things.

Because information and intel means a lot when you're royalty.
considering the enemy is always trying to cause disorder and disunity.

Leaking information weather it is true or not can mean a lot for a persons reputation.

If 'Vine' is no longer an ally that means Satan couldn't maintain order, i.e varun's claim makes Satan look weak.
Considering in the hierarchy there are other crowned princes/s like Azazel/Beelzebub/Astaroth etc....
All there to maintain order, unity and cohesion.

Is varun saying they can't do their job or something?

Not to mention if varun is lying this amounts to slander.

[Snakeway]

Who knows how they cope among themselves. How come there are many kings and crwned princes of hell? How many kingdoms there are? I think it is possible to be truth what Varum is saying

[Agni]

Is this a fact? what exactly are they doing that they ar ''going crazy''?

You are free to look yourself. This is the only way to prove a fact.

Varun, I, and others can talk all day. It only becomes a fact if you experience it yourself.

Even Don had something going on for a while. He was indeed pointing at some thoughtforms that try to portray Satan. This probably came as a shock to him and he started to believe that the gods are not real or that they are evil. He got to a point and stayed there. Maybe he even got attacked by those thoughtforms.

But here is the issue, are you willing to experience, to see, to sense? Not saying you in particular. But some prefer to stick to what they have learned so far. Then they say no to any change.

I am not focused on this Gods, When one came after me and I played along with it he ended up causing me some very bad things in an indirect manner. I am focused on my goals and on my own soul.
I would like to hear your experiences. No judgement from my part

I understand that very well. Some gods do have darker or evil versions of themselves, coming either from different times or other dimensions.

What happened to you might be related to that.

But many gods are as well very busy. They can overlook things too.

[BirdofFreedom]

You are free to look yourself. This is the only way to prove a fact.

Varun, I, and others can talk all day. It only becomes a fact if you experience it yourself.

Even Don had something going on for a while. He was indeed pointing at some thoughtforms that try to portray Satan. This probably came as a shock to him and he started to believe that the gods are not real or that they are evil. He got to a point and stayed there. Maybe he even got attacked by those thoughtforms.

But here is the issue, are you willing to experience, to see, to sense? Not saying you in particular. But some prefer to stick to what they have learned so far. Then they say no to any change.

viewtopic.php?p=14333#p14333

Being human is what it means to be alive, a lot of people seem to forget this.

But honestly, are people like Vraum going to pretend they know the affairs of entities that are listed as literal royalty even in the Goetia.

Being royalty doesnt mean you cant talk or communicate with people. Usually you get even more attention because of it.

How does that translate to not knowing what is going on? Plus Varun is close to them, she usually is around them. She is witnessing the events as they are or at least through her perspective. Another plus is that she can always ask what is going on.

For the past few months she is spending a lot of time around them. Maybe this does translate to gaining knowledge of some things.

Also varun being 'close' to them is just your assumption.
Do you know many deluded people there are that claims the same?

Also what exactly would the other gods gain from sharing this information with him true or false? all it does is make Satan and the crowned princes/s look weak.
You're telling me Astaroth who can see the future, and Satan where it's stated in al-jilwah knows all truth and falsehood could not see or foresee that Vine would be a traitor?
Especially since in the aljilwah it states that Satan places his affairs in the hands of those who he has tried and tested?

So did he fail with Vine? what went wrong then.

[AnonPoster]

It’s okay.

Oh sorry my bad

I thought you are talking about the boy with cancer! You know...poor piggy boy.

Thanks for the clarification

[Agni]

viewtopic.php?p=14333#p14333

Being human is what it means to be alive, a lot of people seem to forget this.

But honestly, are people like Vraum going to pretend they know the affairs of entities that are listed as literal royalty even in the Goetia.

Being royalty doesnt mean you cant talk or communicate with people. Usually you get even more attention because of it.

How does that translate to not knowing what is going on? Plus Varun is close to them, she usually is around them. She is witnessing the events as they are or at least through her perspective. Another plus is that she can always ask what is going on.

For the past few months she is spending a lot of time around them. Maybe this does translate to gaining knowledge of some things.

Because information and intel means a lot when you're royalty.
considering the enemy is always trying to cause disorder and disunity.

Leaking information weather it is true or not can mean a lot for a persons reputation.

If 'Vine' is no longer an ally that means Satan couldn't maintain order, i.e varun's claim makes Satan look weak.
Considering in the hierarchy there are other crowned princes/s like Azazel/Beelzebub/Astaroth etc....
All there to maintain order, unity and cohesion.

Is varun saying they can't do their job or something?

Not to mention if varun is lying this amounts to slander.

She isnt saying they cant do they job. But they do get overwhelmed. Remember that this planet is not the only one targeted by the enemy. They have to look after themselves and after others too.

Being out numbered can add to this as well. We all need each other and we all need to understand what is going on. Or at least not freak out.

While the war is won, there are still battles as the enemy struggles to do as much damage as they can while being eliminated.

[BirdofFreedom]

Being royalty doesnt mean you cant talk or communicate with people. Usually you get even more attention because of it.

How does that translate to not knowing what is going on? Plus Varun is close to them, she usually is around them. She is witnessing the events as they are or at least through her perspective. Another plus is that she can always ask what is going on.

For the past few months she is spending a lot of time around them. Maybe this does translate to gaining knowledge of some things.

Because information and intel means a lot when you're royalty.
considering the enemy is always trying to cause disorder and disunity.

Leaking information weather it is true or not can mean a lot for a persons reputation.

If 'Vine' is no longer an ally that means Satan couldn't maintain order, i.e varun's claim makes Satan look weak.
Considering in the hierarchy there are other crowned princes/s like Azazel/Beelzebub/Astaroth etc....
All there to maintain order, unity and cohesion.

Is varun saying they can't do their job or something?

Not to mention if varun is lying this amounts to slander.

She isnt saying they cant do they job. But they do get overwhelmed. Remember that this planet is not the only one targeted by the enemy. They have to look after themselves and after others too.

Being out numbered can add to this as well. We all need each other and we all need to understand what is going on. Or at least not freak out.

While the war is won, there are still battles as the enemy struggles to do as much damage as they can while being eliminated.

She is saying that, if not what is the reason then?
Because Satan are the other gods are there to help Vine if they're under attack, what's wrong, wasn't Satan's forces strong enough then?

Are you also going to pretend you know the current scale of this war?
If it's true or not that there are other planets targeted by the enemy who is to say that Satan can't handle that.

'out numbered'
Are going to pretend to know big Satan's empire is as well as the numbers he has?

What happened to Vine that made him go traitor? you're telling me varun can say Vine is a traitor while being left to assume the reasons for varun's claims that Vine is a traitor?

[AnonPoster]

I really want to give my encouragements to everybody who wants to work on creative projects for and about our Gods ...that's all I have to say...

For me is early to make an assement on VarunS work


I am more concerned about Snakeway's cancer at the moment:(

[Snakeway]

You are free to look yourself. This is the only way to prove a fact.

Varun, I, and others can talk all day. It only becomes a fact if you experience it yourself.

Even Don had something going on for a while. He was indeed pointing at some thoughtforms that try to portray Satan. This probably came as a shock to him and he started to believe that the gods are not real or that they are evil. He got to a point and stayed there. Maybe he even got attacked by those thoughtforms.

But here is the issue, are you willing to experience, to see, to sense? Not saying you in particular. But some prefer to stick to what they have learned so far. Then they say no to any change.

I am not focused on this Gods, When one came after me and I played along with it he ended up causing me some very bad things in an indirect manner. I am focused on my goals and on my own soul.
I would like to hear your experiences. No judgement from my part

I understand that very well. Some gods do have darker or evil versions of themselves, coming either from different times or other dimensions.

What happened to you might be related to that.

But many gods are as well very busy. They can overlook things too.

I wish I did not had to socialize with those Gods. I need some social girls to go talk to them, Girls like you and Varum could play this role and be my social girls, then you go there and ask what I want to them and come and tell me. You or some other girls who accept this could come live with me as long as you pass in the test of not being Ugly. Either this or I will need to indocrinate some non satanic girlfriend into doing this.