About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

[AnonPoster]

What?

I thought you are talking about the boy with cancer! You know...poor piggy boy.

Thanks for the clarification

Don't mind me I retaliate on snakeway LoL

[Agni]

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Being human is what it means to be alive, a lot of people seem to forget this.

But honestly, are people like Vraum going to pretend they know the affairs of entities that are listed as literal royalty even in the Goetia.

Being royalty doesnt mean you cant talk or communicate with people. Usually you get even more attention because of it.

How does that translate to not knowing what is going on? Plus Varun is close to them, she usually is around them. She is witnessing the events as they are or at least through her perspective. Another plus is that she can always ask what is going on.

For the past few months she is spending a lot of time around them. Maybe this does translate to gaining knowledge of some things.

Also varun being 'close' to them is just your assumption.
Do you know many deluded people there are that claims the same?

Also what exactly would the other gods gain from sharing this information with him true or false? all it does is make Satan and the crowned princes/s look weak.
You're telling me Astaroth who can see the future, and Satan where it's stated in al-jilwah knows all truth and falsehood could not see or foresee that Vine would be a traitor?
Especially since in the aljilwah it states that Satan places his affairs in the hands of those who he has tried and tested?

So did he fail with Vine? what went wrong then.

I guess you are willing to trust an old text. Because it's old it must be true. Or because of whatever other reason its true.

Is al-jilwah the bible christians prove that god is real?

While some gods love pride and to show off, others don't care whether they are popular or if they look weak. Looking weak doesnt mean you are.


While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything. Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.

I am close to the gods as well. I have been around her and around the gods she is close with. Is that assuming? In your mind it maybe be. But have you been there with them? Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot.

But here is the question. What is your relationship with them?

[AnonPoster]

I am not focused on this Gods, When one came after me and I played along with it he ended up causing me some very bad things in an indirect manner. I am focused on my goals and on my own soul.
I would like to hear your experiences. No judgement from my part

I understand that very well. Some gods do have darker or evil versions of themselves, coming either from different times or other dimensions.

What happened to you might be related to that.

But many gods are as well very busy. They can overlook things too.

I wish I did not had to socialize with those Gods. I need some social girls to go talk to them, Girls like you and Varum could play this role and be my social girls, then you go there and ask what I want to them and come and tell me. You or some other girls who accept this could come live with me as long as you pass in the test of not being Ugly. Either this or I will need to indocrinate some non satanic girlfriend into doing this.

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That's the best amusing ever day on this forum,. Why are you making me jealous you terrible pig?,

[Agni]

Because information and intel means a lot when you're royalty.
considering the enemy is always trying to cause disorder and disunity.

Leaking information weather it is true or not can mean a lot for a persons reputation.

If 'Vine' is no longer an ally that means Satan couldn't maintain order, i.e varun's claim makes Satan look weak.
Considering in the hierarchy there are other crowned princes/s like Azazel/Beelzebub/Astaroth etc....
All there to maintain order, unity and cohesion.

Is varun saying they can't do their job or something?

Not to mention if varun is lying this amounts to slander.

She isnt saying they cant do they job. But they do get overwhelmed. Remember that this planet is not the only one targeted by the enemy. They have to look after themselves and after others too.

Being out numbered can add to this as well. We all need each other and we all need to understand what is going on. Or at least not freak out.

While the war is won, there are still battles as the enemy struggles to do as much damage as they can while being eliminated.

She is saying that, if not what is the reason then?
Because Satan are the other gods are there to help Vine if they're under attack, what's wrong, wasn't Satan's forces strong enough then?

Are you also going to pretend you know the current scale of this war?
If it's true or not that there are other planets targeted by the enemy who is to say that Satan can't handle that.

'out numbered'
Are going to pretend to know big Satan's empire is as well as the numbers he has?

What happened to Vine that made him go traitor? you're telling me varun can say Vine is a traitor while being left to assume the reasons for varun's claims that Vine is a traitor?

What is the point you are trying to get to?

[AnonPoster]

Oh. He called you ‘cancer.’ Snakeway loves pisses people off all the time. He can be irritating but I just ignore him from time to time.

Don't mind me I retaliate on snakeway LoL

I do have a sense of humour I get pissed at times because is normal but don't hold any grudge I repeat I know how to laugh so RELAX

[BirdofFreedom]

Being royalty doesnt mean you cant talk or communicate with people. Usually you get even more attention because of it.

How does that translate to not knowing what is going on? Plus Varun is close to them, she usually is around them. She is witnessing the events as they are or at least through her perspective. Another plus is that she can always ask what is going on.

For the past few months she is spending a lot of time around them. Maybe this does translate to gaining knowledge of some things.

Also varun being 'close' to them is just your assumption.
Do you know many deluded people there are that claims the same?

Also what exactly would the other gods gain from sharing this information with him true or false? all it does is make Satan and the crowned princes/s look weak.
You're telling me Astaroth who can see the future, and Satan where it's stated in al-jilwah knows all truth and falsehood could not see or foresee that Vine would be a traitor?
Especially since in the aljilwah it states that Satan places his affairs in the hands of those who he has tried and tested?

So did he fail with Vine? what went wrong then.

I guess you are willing to trust an old text. Because it's old it must be true. Or because of whatever other reason its true.

Is al-jilwah the bible christians prove that god is real?

While some gods love pride and to show off, others don't care whether they are popular or if they look weak. Looking weak doesnt mean you are.


While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything. Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.

I am close to the gods as well. I have been around her and around the gods she is close with. Is that assuming? In your mind it maybe be. But have you been there with them? Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot.

But here is the question. What is your relationship with them?

you can say the same about varun, what makes her trust worthy?
What does varun have to show that makes her trust worth?

'While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything'
And who is to say that she can't see things in regards to Vine's affairs? do you know this?

'Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.'
And this is relevant to Vine how exactly? are you implying that Vine had to go traitor? and if so then for what outcome exactly?

'I am close to the gods as well. ... Is that assuming?'
That's not assumption on your part, it's something that you seem to believe, but just because you believe something doesn't make it fact. like you you said "In your mind it maybe be." that also applies to you.

"But have you been there with them?"
Good question, maybe you should ask them.

"Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot."
I'm looking for answers, if someone makes a claim of something i expect them to give reasons that can be proven or validated, do you expect me to just believe something because someone says something?

[BirdofFreedom]

She isnt saying they cant do they job. But they do get overwhelmed. Remember that this planet is not the only one targeted by the enemy. They have to look after themselves and after others too.

Being out numbered can add to this as well. We all need each other and we all need to understand what is going on. Or at least not freak out.

While the war is won, there are still battles as the enemy struggles to do as much damage as they can while being eliminated.

She is saying that, if not what is the reason then?
Because Satan are the other gods are there to help Vine if they're under attack, what's wrong, wasn't Satan's forces strong enough then?

Are you also going to pretend you know the current scale of this war?
If it's true or not that there are other planets targeted by the enemy who is to say that Satan can't handle that.

'out numbered'
Are going to pretend to know big Satan's empire is as well as the numbers he has?

What happened to Vine that made him go traitor? you're telling me varun can say Vine is a traitor while being left to assume the reasons for varun's claims that Vine is a traitor?

What is the point you are trying to get to?

that the claim that Vine is a traitor is baseless with no evidence to support it other than varun said so and because you claimed that she is close to the gods which is also baseless.

[AnonPoster]

I am relaxed. And of course, I don’t hold a grudge. Well maybe sometimes but it vanishes.

I do have a sense of humour I get pissed at times because is normal but don't hold any grudge I repeat I know how to laugh so RELAX

Thank you for being the most wonderful kid. even today ❤

[Agni]

Also varun being 'close' to them is just your assumption.
Do you know many deluded people there are that claims the same?

Also what exactly would the other gods gain from sharing this information with him true or false? all it does is make Satan and the crowned princes/s look weak.
You're telling me Astaroth who can see the future, and Satan where it's stated in al-jilwah knows all truth and falsehood could not see or foresee that Vine would be a traitor?
Especially since in the aljilwah it states that Satan places his affairs in the hands of those who he has tried and tested?

So did he fail with Vine? what went wrong then.

I guess you are willing to trust an old text. Because it's old it must be true. Or because of whatever other reason its true.

Is al-jilwah the bible christians prove that god is real?

While some gods love pride and to show off, others don't care whether they are popular or if they look weak. Looking weak doesnt mean you are.


While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything. Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.

I am close to the gods as well. I have been around her and around the gods she is close with. Is that assuming? In your mind it maybe be. But have you been there with them? Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot.

But here is the question. What is your relationship with them?

you can say the same about varun, what makes her trust worthy?
What does varun have to show that makes her trust worth?

'While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything'
And who is to say that she can't see things in regards to Vine's affairs? do you know this?

'Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.'
And this is relevant to Vine how exactly? are you implying that Vine had to go traitor? and if so then for what outcome exactly?

'I am close to the gods as well. ... Is that assuming?'
That's not assumption on your part, it's something that you seem to believe, but just because you believe something doesn't make it fact. like you you said "In your mind it maybe be." that also applies to you.

"But have you been there with them?"
Good question, maybe you should ask them.

"Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot."
I'm looking for answers, if someone makes a claim of something i expect them to give reasons that can be proven or validated, do you expect me to just believe something because someone says something?

I see. Well in regards to these things you cant really give proof. Not in a sense to satisfy everyone.

What proof do you expect to get? It's not like you can ask Satan to make somehow a paper with text on it to appear in front of you. But he can make you notice signs. For some its numbers, for others is something else. That's material proof in a sense.

While she claims a lot of things, you cant know if its false or not, unless you experience it yourself. Then you can discern if it's true or not.


But until they come ("if they come") we can only hope that what we see and experience is real. That is my honest thought.

[BirdofFreedom]

I guess you are willing to trust an old text. Because it's old it must be true. Or because of whatever other reason its true.

Is al-jilwah the bible christians prove that god is real?

While some gods love pride and to show off, others don't care whether they are popular or if they look weak. Looking weak doesnt mean you are.


While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything. Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.

I am close to the gods as well. I have been around her and around the gods she is close with. Is that assuming? In your mind it maybe be. But have you been there with them? Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot.

But here is the question. What is your relationship with them?

you can say the same about varun, what makes her trust worthy?
What does varun have to show that makes her trust worth?

'While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything'
And who is to say that she can't see things in regards to Vine's affairs? do you know this?

'Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.'
And this is relevant to Vine how exactly? are you implying that Vine had to go traitor? and if so then for what outcome exactly?

'I am close to the gods as well. ... Is that assuming?'
That's not assumption on your part, it's something that you seem to believe, but just because you believe something doesn't make it fact. like you you said "In your mind it maybe be." that also applies to you.

"But have you been there with them?"
Good question, maybe you should ask them.

"Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot."
I'm looking for answers, if someone makes a claim of something i expect them to give reasons that can be proven or validated, do you expect me to just believe something because someone says something?

I see. Well in regards to these things you cant really give proof. Not in a sense to satisfy everyone.

What proof do you expect to get? It's not like you can ask Satan to make somehow a paper with text on it to appear in front of you. But he can make you notice signs. For some its numbers, for others is something else. That's material proof in a sense.

While she claims a lot of things, you cant know if its false or not, unless you experience it yourself. Then you can discern if it's true or not.


But until they come ("if they come") we can only hope that what we see and experience is real. That is my honest thought.

That's my point, these claims are pointless if there's noting to back it up.
So why is someone who's 'close to the gods' wasting their time on these useless claims, is this what people who're close to the gods do? talk non-sense all day?