About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

[Agni]

you can say the same about varun, what makes her trust worthy?
What does varun have to show that makes her trust worth?

'While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything'
And who is to say that she can't see things in regards to Vine's affairs? do you know this?

'Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.'
And this is relevant to Vine how exactly? are you implying that Vine had to go traitor? and if so then for what outcome exactly?

'I am close to the gods as well. ... Is that assuming?'
That's not assumption on your part, it's something that you seem to believe, but just because you believe something doesn't make it fact. like you you said "In your mind it maybe be." that also applies to you.

"But have you been there with them?"
Good question, maybe you should ask them.

"Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot."
I'm looking for answers, if someone makes a claim of something i expect them to give reasons that can be proven or validated, do you expect me to just believe something because someone says something?

I see. Well in regards to these things you cant really give proof. Not in a sense to satisfy everyone.

What proof do you expect to get? It's not like you can ask Satan to make somehow a paper with text on it to appear in front of you. But he can make you notice signs. For some its numbers, for others is something else. That's material proof in a sense.

While she claims a lot of things, you cant know if its false or not, unless you experience it yourself. Then you can discern if it's true or not.


But until they come ("if they come") we can only hope that what we see and experience is real. That is my honest thought.

That's my point, these claims are pointless if there's noting to back it up.
So why is someone who's 'close to the gods' wasting their time on these useless claims, is this what people who're close to the gods do? talk non-sense all day?

Her point was to try and warn people. Whether it's a real threat or not depends. If it is a real threat then some nasty things will happen, if not then some nasty things wont happen.

But better be wrong. And there is no real threat, than being right and people suffer anyway.

There isnt anything i can add to this.

[AnonPoster]

you can say the same about varun, what makes her trust worthy?
What does varun have to show that makes her trust worth?

'While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything'
And who is to say that she can't see things in regards to Vine's affairs? do you know this?

'Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.'
And this is relevant to Vine how exactly? are you implying that Vine had to go traitor? and if so then for what outcome exactly?

'I am close to the gods as well. ... Is that assuming?'
That's not assumption on your part, it's something that you seem to believe, but just because you believe something doesn't make it fact. like you you said "In your mind it maybe be." that also applies to you.

"But have you been there with them?"
Good question, maybe you should ask them.

"Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot."
I'm looking for answers, if someone makes a claim of something i expect them to give reasons that can be proven or validated, do you expect me to just believe something because someone says something?

I see. Well in regards to these things you cant really give proof. Not in a sense to satisfy everyone.

What proof do you expect to get? It's not like you can ask Satan to make somehow a paper with text on it to appear in front of you. But he can make you notice signs. For some its numbers, for others is something else. That's material proof in a sense.

While she claims a lot of things, you cant know if its false or not, unless you experience it yourself. Then you can discern if it's true or not.


But until they come ("if they come") we can only hope that what we see and experience is real. That is my honest thought.

That's my point, these claims are pointless if there's noting to back it up.
So why is someone who's 'close to the gods' wasting their time on these useless claims, is this what people who're close to the gods do? talk non-sense all day?

Birdoffreedom I love as always your impeccable logic behind the obvious....just a reminder for the topic of yesterday. I still feel tied, (not literally on the bed by snakeway) LoL but seriously now, I feel this dedication ritual did something to me. I tried different things but I am curious how would you address this

[AnonPoster]

Young adult. Lol

Thank you for being the most wonderful kid. even today ❤

How old areu

[AnonPoster]

18. Lol

How old areu

Omg I though 21 at least. Now I will call you baby boy

[BirdofFreedom]

I see. Well in regards to these things you cant really give proof. Not in a sense to satisfy everyone.

What proof do you expect to get? It's not like you can ask Satan to make somehow a paper with text on it to appear in front of you. But he can make you notice signs. For some its numbers, for others is something else. That's material proof in a sense.

While she claims a lot of things, you cant know if its false or not, unless you experience it yourself. Then you can discern if it's true or not.


But until they come ("if they come") we can only hope that what we see and experience is real. That is my honest thought.

That's my point, these claims are pointless if there's noting to back it up.
So why is someone who's 'close to the gods' wasting their time on these useless claims, is this what people who're close to the gods do? talk non-sense all day?

Her point was to try and warn people. Whether it's a real threat or not depends. If it is a real threat then some nasty things will happen, if not then some nasty things wont happen.

But better be wrong. And there is no real threat, than being right and people suffer anyway.

There isnt anything i can add to this.

If it's false, then like i said before it amounts to slander. how can someone claim to be close to the gods yet slander them so casually.

You'd think claiming that a god is a traitor would be something taken seriously and backed up with sufficient evidence.
varun is 'close to the gods' yet just casually throw out something that's potentially a false accusation.

For someone who says the gods are human with feelings, don't you think they'd be upset over being falsely accused by someone they're 'close with'?

[AnonPoster]

That's my point, these claims are pointless if there's noting to back it up.
So why is someone who's 'close to the gods' wasting their time on these useless claims, is this what people who're close to the gods do? talk non-sense all day?

Her point was to try and warn people. Whether it's a real threat or not depends. If it is a real threat then some nasty things will happen, if not then some nasty things wont happen.

But better be wrong. And there is no real threat, than being right and people suffer anyway.

There isnt anything i can add to this.

If it's false, then like i said before it amounts to slander. how can someone claim to be close to the gods yet slander them so casually.

You'd think claiming that a god is a traitor would be something taken seriously and backed up with sufficient evidence.
varun is 'close to the gods' yet just casually throw out something that's potentially a false accusation.

For someone who says the gods are human with feelings, don't you think they'd be upset over being falsely accused by someone they're 'close with'?

I totally agree with you I wrote her similarly stuff but relax like everybody relax

[BirdofFreedom]

I see. Well in regards to these things you cant really give proof. Not in a sense to satisfy everyone.

What proof do you expect to get? It's not like you can ask Satan to make somehow a paper with text on it to appear in front of you. But he can make you notice signs. For some its numbers, for others is something else. That's material proof in a sense.

While she claims a lot of things, you cant know if its false or not, unless you experience it yourself. Then you can discern if it's true or not.


But until they come ("if they come") we can only hope that what we see and experience is real. That is my honest thought.

That's my point, these claims are pointless if there's noting to back it up.
So why is someone who's 'close to the gods' wasting their time on these useless claims, is this what people who're close to the gods do? talk non-sense all day?

Birdoffreedom I love as always your impeccable logic behind the obvious....just a reminder for the topic of yesterday. I still feel tied, (not literally on the bed by snakeway) LoL but seriously now, I feel this dedication ritual did something to me. I tried different things but I am curious how would you address this

I've seen dedicated SS turn to xianity and some people who did it went along living like a normal NPC giving 0 regards to the dedication, as if it meant noting to them and noting really bad happened to them, they lived plain normal lives.
From my experience that is.

In the context of the dedication ritual on the JOS it says that you can leave if you wish doesn't it?

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... /Kids.html

Satan doesn't force himself on anyone.

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... TANIC.html

Question:
Can I reverse the ritual at a later date?
Answer:
Satanic rituals, unlike the rituals in other religions, are real and permanent. I received a very small number of letters from people who were confused and harassed by Christians. One person performed a reverse ritual and Satan left him. Totally. Satan does not push himself on anyone..

If the dedication ritual is weighing on your conscious you can always do a unbinding ritual however you choose, like some people write down on paper that they renounce their oaths/loyalty/dedication to Satan or whatever and then sign it in blood and burn the paper.

I will say this, some xians when they leave xianity are attacked by xian spirits that trick them into thinking they're being attacked by 'satanic' forces to scare them back into xanity.
Be aware of if you wish for independence and freedom you need to be able to hold your own and know no fear.

[AnonPoster]

That's my point, these claims are pointless if there's noting to back it up.
So why is someone who's 'close to the gods' wasting their time on these useless claims, is this what people who're close to the gods do? talk non-sense all day?

Birdoffreedom I love as always your impeccable logic behind the obvious....just a reminder for the topic of yesterday. I still feel tied, (not literally on the bed by snakeway) LoL but seriously now, I feel this dedication ritual did something to me. I tried different things but I am curious how would you address this

Cool appreciate the effort not exactly about unbinding myself from other satanists (because I am fine with Satan), ... but let's say I am still

I've seen dedicated SS turn to xianity and some people who did it went along living like a normal NPC giving 0 regards to the dedication, as if it meant noting to them and noting really bad happened to them, they lived plain normal lives.
From my experience that is.

In the context of the dedication ritual on the JOS it says that you can leave if you wish doesn't it?

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... /Kids.html

Satan doesn't force himself on anyone.

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... TANIC.html

Question:
Can I reverse the ritual at a later date?
Answer:
Satanic rituals, unlike the rituals in other religions, are real and permanent. I received a very small number of letters from people who were confused and harassed by Christians. One person performed a reverse ritual and Satan left him. Totally. Satan does not push himself on anyone..

If the dedication ritual is weighing on your conscious you can always do a unbinding ritual however you choose, like some people write down on paper that they renounce their oaths/loyalty/dedication to Satan or whatever and then sign it in blood and burn the paper.

I will say this, some xians when they leave xianity are attacked by xian spirits that trick them into thinking they're being attacked by 'satanic' forces to scare them back into xanity.
Beware of if you wish for independence and freedom you need to be able to hold your own and know no fear.

Appreciate the effort I would kindly remind you I am fine with Satan but ... basically is still the emotional wound due to jos trauma and turmoil. maybe it needs time. Its fine

Thank you again.

[AnonPoster]

No. I’m 18, I joined here when I was 17. It’s been quite of a journey.

Omg I though 21 at least. Now I will call you baby boy

Lol. Great job for 18 I am so PROUD of you. Happy ever journey!

[BirdofFreedom]

Birdoffreedom I love as always your impeccable logic behind the obvious....just a reminder for the topic of yesterday. I still feel tied, (not literally on the bed by snakeway) LoL but seriously now, I feel this dedication ritual did something to me. I tried different things but I am curious how would you address this

Cool appreciate the effort not exactly about unbinding myself from other satanists (because I am fine with Satan), ... but let's say I am still

I've seen dedicated SS turn to xianity and some people who did it went along living like a normal NPC giving 0 regards to the dedication, as if it meant noting to them and noting really bad happened to them, they lived plain normal lives.
From my experience that is.

In the context of the dedication ritual on the JOS it says that you can leave if you wish doesn't it?

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... /Kids.html

Satan doesn't force himself on anyone.

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... TANIC.html

Question:
Can I reverse the ritual at a later date?
Answer:
Satanic rituals, unlike the rituals in other religions, are real and permanent. I received a very small number of letters from people who were confused and harassed by Christians. One person performed a reverse ritual and Satan left him. Totally. Satan does not push himself on anyone..

If the dedication ritual is weighing on your conscious you can always do a unbinding ritual however you choose, like some people write down on paper that they renounce their oaths/loyalty/dedication to Satan or whatever and then sign it in blood and burn the paper.

I will say this, some xians when they leave xianity are attacked by xian spirits that trick them into thinking they're being attacked by 'satanic' forces to scare them back into xanity.
Beware of if you wish for independence and freedom you need to be able to hold your own and know no fear.

Appreciate the effort I would kindly remind you I am fine with Satan but ... basically is still the emotional wound due to jos trauma and turmoil. maybe it needs time. Its fine

Thank you again.

Like many others, there's a reason why the majority of the old members are not there, just like you they were abused and exploited and left as a result.

the people who remained through it all act as if they their soul was carved out and filled with something robotic and mundane, some are just lunatics.