About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

[AnonPoster]

Bird of freedom

You make excellent points which is why even as someone who comes here now and then I think it's an absurd claim. Honestly everyone has their own experience. One can not speak for the gods. I don't believe in mediators. What is one experience is another for someone else. Unfortunately those who make these claims have to question the intention WHY are you making claims unless you are trying to gain followers because of an unfulfilled life or ego. Unsatisfied with your life,? is someone in your life making you feel powerless? Etc. They can sit and lie to your face all day. No one is completely satisfied with their life. So why the fuck should I follow some feeble attempt to gain a mass of followers or wanting the same position like Cobra or even Don use to have.

I personally think any demon to attack anyone yet claim to be a Satanist or whatever needs to re-think on who is doing the attacking. If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.

"The auspices of Vine are useful for physical and spiritual warfare alike. He can bring about all manner of destruction, but he is most renowned for his ability to destroy the infrastructure of enemy forces and strike down the astral defense constructs of opposing sorcerers. "

So that says a lot......

Well said

If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.


I think Varun is dealing with enemies I see no ill intentions. Indeed disrespectful to the Gods but she obvisouly got scared.

I would not go that far to insult this person that doesn't have a life as You said
as far as I see she wants to be of service including ppromoting rituals for whites. I support the general idea, let's be kind.

[AnonPoster]

Bird of freedom

You make excellent points which is why even as someone who comes here now and then I think it's an absurd claim. Honestly everyone has their own experience. One can not speak for the gods. I don't believe in mediators. What is one experience is another for someone else. Unfortunately those who make these claims have to question the intention WHY are you making claims unless you are trying to gain followers because of an unfulfilled life or ego. Unsatisfied with your life,? is someone in your life making you feel powerless? Etc. They can sit and lie to your face all day. No one is completely satisfied with their life. So why the fuck should I follow some feeble attempt to gain a mass of followers or wanting the same position like Cobra or even Don use to have.

I personally think any demon to attack anyone yet claim to be a Satanist or whatever needs to re-think on who is doing the attacking. If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.

"The auspices of Vine are useful for physical and spiritual warfare alike. He can bring about all manner of destruction, but he is most renowned for his ability to destroy the infrastructure of enemy forces and strike down the astral defense constructs of opposing sorcerers. "

So that says a lot......

Well said

If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.


I think Varun is dealing with enemies I see no ill intentions. Indeed disrespectful to the Gods but she obvisouly got scared.

I would not go that far to insult this person that doesn't have a life as You said
as far as I see she wants to be of service including ppromoting rituals for whites. I support the general idea, let's be kind.

She can do whatever she wants. But I personally do not agree or follow what she says. My philosophy is one of independence.

[AnonPoster]

Bird of freedom

You make excellent points which is why even as someone who comes here now and then I think it's an absurd claim. Honestly everyone has their own experience. One can not speak for the gods. I don't believe in mediators. What is one experience is another for someone else. Unfortunately those who make these claims have to question the intention WHY are you making claims unless you are trying to gain followers because of an unfulfilled life or ego. Unsatisfied with your life,? is someone in your life making you feel powerless? Etc. They can sit and lie to your face all day. No one is completely satisfied with their life. So why the fuck should I follow some feeble attempt to gain a mass of followers or wanting the same position like Cobra or even Don use to have.

I personally think any demon to attack anyone yet claim to be a Satanist or whatever needs to re-think on who is doing the attacking. If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.

"The auspices of Vine are useful for physical and spiritual warfare alike. He can bring about all manner of destruction, but he is most renowned for his ability to destroy the infrastructure of enemy forces and strike down the astral defense constructs of opposing sorcerers. "

So that says a lot......

Well said

If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.


I think Varun is dealing with enemies I see no ill intentions. Indeed disrespectful to the Gods but she obvisouly got scared.

I would not go that far to insult this person that doesn't have a life as You said
as far as I see she wants to be of service including ppromoting rituals for whites. I support the general idea, let's be kind.

She can do whatever she wants. But I personally do not agree or follow what she says. My philosophy is one of independence.

Sure I can respect that and does not conflict with anything is just some or more rituals for whites should be organised. This is not a matter of politics we wont have bodies to reincarnate

[AnonPoster]

Bird of freedom

You make excellent points which is why even as someone who comes here now and then I think it's an absurd claim. Honestly everyone has their own experience. One can not speak for the gods. I don't believe in mediators. What is one experience is another for someone else. Unfortunately those who make these claims have to question the intention WHY are you making claims unless you are trying to gain followers because of an unfulfilled life or ego. Unsatisfied with your life,? is someone in your life making you feel powerless? Etc. They can sit and lie to your face all day. No one is completely satisfied with their life. So why the fuck should I follow some feeble attempt to gain a mass of followers or wanting the same position like Cobra or even Don use to have.

I personally think any demon to attack anyone yet claim to be a Satanist or whatever needs to re-think on who is doing the attacking. If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.

"The auspices of Vine are useful for physical and spiritual warfare alike. He can bring about all manner of destruction, but he is most renowned for his ability to destroy the infrastructure of enemy forces and strike down the astral defense constructs of opposing sorcerers. "

So that says a lot......

Well said

If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.


I think Varun is dealing with enemies I see no ill intentions. Indeed disrespectful to the Gods but she obvisouly got scared.

I would not go that far to insult this person that doesn't have a life as You said
as far as I see she wants to be of service including ppromoting rituals for whites. I support the general idea, let's be kind.

Ok but why does she want to do it? What's the intention? To feel useful? Or doing it for genuine love for white race? Or is it some other reason? One can always type the reason for it but in real life if they really do feel attacked... Then obviously she is doing something wrong or it's not the right intentions.

[AnonPoster]

Bird of freedom

You make excellent points which is why even as someone who comes here now and then I think it's an absurd claim. Honestly everyone has their own experience. One can not speak for the gods. I don't believe in mediators. What is one experience is another for someone else. Unfortunately those who make these claims have to question the intention WHY are you making claims unless you are trying to gain followers because of an unfulfilled life or ego. Unsatisfied with your life,? is someone in your life making you feel powerless? Etc. They can sit and lie to your face all day. No one is completely satisfied with their life. So why the fuck should I follow some feeble attempt to gain a mass of followers or wanting the same position like Cobra or even Don use to have.

I personally think any demon to attack anyone yet claim to be a Satanist or whatever needs to re-think on who is doing the attacking. If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.

"The auspices of Vine are useful for physical and spiritual warfare alike. He can bring about all manner of destruction, but he is most renowned for his ability to destroy the infrastructure of enemy forces and strike down the astral defense constructs of opposing sorcerers. "

So that says a lot......

Well said

If your soul isn't truly in line with the powers of hell, yet you are mixing in with other practices and communications with other beings. Your soul is open to anything really. Apparently confused.

If a demon attacks... It's fuckin justified. Just sayin.


I think Varun is dealing with enemies I see no ill intentions. Indeed disrespectful to the Gods but she obvisouly got scared.

I would not go that far to insult this person that doesn't have a life as You said
as far as I see she wants to be of service including ppromoting rituals for whites. I support the general idea, let's be kind.

Ok but why does she want to do it? What's the intention? To feel useful? Or doing it for genuine love for white race? Or is it some other reason? One can always type the reason for it but in real life if they really do feel attacked... Then obviously she is doing something wrong or it's not the right intentions.

Basically yes to replace the RTRs as an alternative with RUNES
sure for genuine care I would hope. Time will tell

I am an open positive person - I wish her the best!

[imjustexploring6969]

Just lurking here usually but wanted to say its nice to see a civil discussion happening even in a fairly active thread like this one. Having seen the JoS clown-fiesta they would have torn each others' throats out over topics half as major as this one.

As for the topic itself, I'd say time will tell. A warning against contacting one of the Goetia Demons has less negatives to it than you'd think. In the case of a false accusation, that Demon could still actively get in contact with a person they are interested in anyway. It's not like people are so sensitive they'd start rejecting any entity they discern as being Vine. The only thing it really advocates against is to have people actively try to summon that Demon.

I look at Varun's posts like news updates and its kinda fun. You dont have to blindly believe anything nor feel inclined to do anything off of reading the posts, but they're interesting to read for me.

[HPBlackMamba]

Just lurking here usually but wanted to say its nice to see a civil discussion happening even in a fairly active thread like this one. Having seen the JoS clown-fiesta they would have torn each others' throats out over topics half as major as this one.

As for the topic itself, I'd say time will tell. A warning against contacting one of the Goetia Demons has less negatives to it than you'd think. In the case of a false accusation, that Demon could still actively get in contact with a person they are interested in anyway. It's not like people are so sensitive they'd start rejecting any entity they discern as being Vine. The only thing it really advocates against is to have people actively try to summon that Demon.

I look at Varun's posts like news updates and its kinda fun. You dont have to blindly believe anything nor feel inclined to do anything off of reading the posts, but they're interesting to read for me.

Arguments and debates are encouraged as this is a free speech place. So people "tearing each others' throats out over topics half as major as this one" isn't really a problem. The thing to keep in mind is that you won't be censored if your opinion is unpopular.

[Varun]

Vine in the future is apparently okay all of his versions. He had some issues before but he is okay in the future. He had some versions of him that were unfriendly. One of the versions was linked to the present.

Yes it really can happen. Gods aren't as JoS has portraited them. They are extremely powerful but people can be powerful too. Gods have very unique personalities and van be very charming, can be even dark, playful. But they care for us. Yes they are immortal, they are awesome, but it seems things can happen.

I really have seen a lot so far. I love them all a lot. This with Vine was really painful.

[Varun]

I wrote this because we have talked recently and some versions of him have appeared and apologized. They will fill out for him.

[Varun]

Wish I could talk more and open up about some things but I can't. It's hard enough already.