Jos and wisdom

[BirdofFreedom]

well, your questions are provoking though. i have had the confirmation through this answer. all these questions are unnecessary. you are an ex-JoS member from what you said in the forum. so you should know why someone is Satanist and pray to Satan. i know you want to make questions about everything and question whatever stuff, but why don't you question it also for yourself? i don't know if you're still Satanist, however i would say that you would've created doubts in other satanists. and you can say "good, no? we need to find the Truth" that's still not good to do, because someone can lose their way like that. i've seen it. if they're new they can fall into a trap, especially if they are leaving christianity, islam or whatever. give them motivations about the path instead, if you're Satanist. through question you can stimulate answers, that's true. however if you have these answers, why don't you give these instead? i do what i can to be useful for Satan, i don't even need to write what, because i know what i'm doing. i don't know you in fact, as you don't know me. tell me where did i make a personal assumption about you, except finding the questions provoking. how can you observe someone's energy from how they write? i mean it depends, but from an average forum member? if someone writes crazy stuff or tells something personal about them, you can be able to know. instead, you're just assuming stuff. you said that Satanism is a family, right? there aren't precise rules to be Satanists, except respect and of course not committing the stupidity sin that in reality, it means so many things. if you want to know someone, don't do it through a forum, through JoS flame posts. study someone, instead of just assuming stuff, if they didn't expose anything about themselves.

there is a difference between being edgy and "wild", though.

Honestly, i'm done.
You're only talking, you're not listening.
You pray to Satan, but you don't listen.

"you are an ex-JoS member"
Am i? you better be sure, because i don't like people telling lies about me.
especailly when you admit to not knowing me.

"so you should know why someone is Satanist and pray to Satan."
Yea i should just know right? because when i know something and tell people what i know they just say i'm asuming things.

"i know you want to make questions about everything and question whatever stuff,"
You know this? i thought you said you don't know me.

"but why don't you question it also for yourself?"
What makes you think i didn't?

"i don't know if you're still Satanist, "
You don't really know much do you?

"and you can say "good, no? we need to find the Truth" that's still not good to do,"
What's not 'good' about it?

"however if you have these answers, why don't you give these instead? "
Because no one's really asking and if they do ask i'm not obligated to give an answer either.

"i do what i can to be useful for Satan,"
What if you just think you're being useful to Satan but you're not? you admit to not knowing me, if you can't even figure out who i am, then how figure out who Satan is?

"as you don't know me."
how many times do i have to tell you? do you know how much i know? do you know what i can see or not? how do you know if i know you or not?

"there aren't precise rules to be Satanists, except respect and of course not committing the stupidity sin that in reality, it means so many things."
If there aren't precise rules to be a Satanist then why are you saying 'except respect and of course not committing the stupidity sin'
Didn't you just contradict yourself?

"if you want to know someone, don't do it through a forum, through JoS flame posts."
I'll do as i please.

"if they didn't expose anything about themselves."
What makes you think they didn't expose themselves?

"if you're Satanist."
Yea what if i'm a Satanist? what if the things i know about you were revealed to me by Satan?
What if i'm here to help you with your problems?
Do you know me?

"tell me where did i make a personal assumption about you"
How many times must i say it? how much time must i waste on you?
here are some:

• how can you observe someone's energy from how they write? i mean it depends, but from an average forum member?
• if someone writes crazy stuff or tells something personal about them, you can be able to know.
• but, why are you assuming things about me,
• you are an ex-JoS member
• i know you want to make questions about everything and question whatever stuff
• you don't know me.
• you're just assuming stuff.

Like honestly have you ever thought that maybe you don't know yourself that well?
Have you ever thought that maybe someone else knows you better than yourself?

"i don't even need to write what, because i know what i'm doing."
Okay do that then. I'm done trying to help people, I'm done trying to be nice to people and giving them what they want when they're doing noting for me.
Giving people what they want, yet they're giving me noting in return.
I'm gone.

But before i go, THINK CELESTE, because you're pretty fucking stupid.

Asshole you better be nice to me. Heh heh

oh yea?
I guess we'll see.

[Celeste AikoGal]

Edgy? well you'd be edgy too if you had darkness in you.
Like i said, you don't seem to show any signs of actual feminine essence.

"with "father" i don't mean biological father or stuff like that. i mean i'm part of him and he's part of me."
And what makes you think he sees you the same way?
Why would he want to be part of you anyways? are you useful in some way?

"but, why are you assuming things about me, without knowing me? "
Isn't this litterally you tho?
Do you know me? do you know how much i know?

"i honestly find it non-sense to tell someone you don't know if they lack yin or yang energy (not true). it's just assuming something."
it's not an assumption, it's an observation.

"i always appreciated your posts"
Oh, thank you.

"this question seemed sort of provoking to me"
I thought Satan meant truth?
How are you going to find answers if you don't ask questions?
What's provoking about the question either ways?

"i didn't know."
Well maybe you should find out.

well, your questions are provoking though. i have had the confirmation through this answer. all these questions are unnecessary. you are an ex-JoS member from what you said in the forum. so you should know why someone is Satanist and pray to Satan. i know you want to make questions about everything and question whatever stuff, but why don't you question it also for yourself? i don't know if you're still Satanist, however i would say that you would've created doubts in other satanists. and you can say "good, no? we need to find the Truth" that's still not good to do, because someone can lose their way like that. i've seen it. if they're new they can fall into a trap, especially if they are leaving christianity, islam or whatever. give them motivations about the path instead, if you're Satanist. through question you can stimulate answers, that's true. however if you have these answers, why don't you give these instead? i do what i can to be useful for Satan, i don't even need to write what, because i know what i'm doing. i don't know you in fact, as you don't know me. tell me where did i make a personal assumption about you, except finding the questions provoking. how can you observe someone's energy from how they write? i mean it depends, but from an average forum member? if someone writes crazy stuff or tells something personal about them, you can be able to know. instead, you're just assuming stuff. you said that Satanism is a family, right? there aren't precise rules to be Satanists, except respect and of course not committing the stupidity sin that in reality, it means so many things. if you want to know someone, don't do it through a forum, through JoS flame posts. study someone, instead of just assuming stuff, if they didn't expose anything about themselves.

there is a difference between being edgy and "wild", though.

Honestly, i'm done.
You're only talking, you're not listening.
You pray to Satan, but you don't listen.

"you are an ex-JoS member"
Am i? you better be sure, because i don't like people telling lies about me.
especailly when you admit to not knowing me.

"so you should know why someone is Satanist and pray to Satan."
Yea i should just know right? because when i know something and tell people what i know they just say i'm asuming things.

"i know you want to make questions about everything and question whatever stuff,"
You know this? i thought you said you don't know me.

"but why don't you question it also for yourself?"
What makes you think i didn't?

"i don't know if you're still Satanist, "
You don't really know much do you?

"and you can say "good, no? we need to find the Truth" that's still not good to do,"
What's not 'good' about it?

"however if you have these answers, why don't you give these instead? "
Because no one's really asking and if they do ask i'm not obligated to give an answer either.

"i do what i can to be useful for Satan,"
What if you just think you're being useful to Satan but you're not? you admit to not knowing me, if you can't even figure out who i am, then how figure out who Satan is?

"as you don't know me."
how many times do i have to tell you? do you know how much i know? do you know what i can see or not? how do you know if i know you or not?

"there aren't precise rules to be Satanists, except respect and of course not committing the stupidity sin that in reality, it means so many things."
If there aren't precise rules to be a Satanist then why are you saying 'except respect and of course not committing the stupidity sin'
Didn't you just contradict yourself?

"if you want to know someone, don't do it through a forum, through JoS flame posts."
I'll do as i please.

"if they didn't expose anything about themselves."
What makes you think they didn't expose themselves?

"if you're Satanist."
Yea what if i'm a Satanist? what if the things i know about you were revealed to me by Satan?
What if i'm here to help you with your problems?
Do you know me?

"tell me where did i make a personal assumption about you"
How many times must i say it? how much time must i waste on you?
here are some:

• how can you observe someone's energy from how they write? i mean it depends, but from an average forum member?
• if someone writes crazy stuff or tells something personal about them, you can be able to know.
• but, why are you assuming things about me,
• you are an ex-JoS member
• i know you want to make questions about everything and question whatever stuff
• you don't know me.
• you're just assuming stuff.

Like honestly have you ever thought that maybe you don't know yourself that well?
Have you ever thought that maybe someone else knows you better than yourself?

"i don't even need to write what, because i know what i'm doing."
Okay do that then. I'm done trying to help people, I'm done trying to be nice to people and giving them what they want when they're doing noting for me.
Giving people what they want, yet they're giving me noting in return.
I'm gone.

But before i go, THINK CELESTE, because you're pretty fucking stupid.

guess i read something wrong about you being an ex JoS member, though. didn't ask for help anyway and shut up, because this is not helping, the way you are doing - idiot.

[Ipsissimus83]

Honestly, i'm done.
You're only talking, you're not listening.
You pray to Satan, but you don't listen.

"you are an ex-JoS member"
Am i? you better be sure, because i don't like people telling lies about me.
especailly when you admit to not knowing me.

"so you should know why someone is Satanist and pray to Satan."
Yea i should just know right? because when i know something and tell people what i know they just say i'm asuming things.

"i know you want to make questions about everything and question whatever stuff,"
You know this? i thought you said you don't know me.

"but why don't you question it also for yourself?"
What makes you think i didn't?

"i don't know if you're still Satanist, "
You don't really know much do you?

"and you can say "good, no? we need to find the Truth" that's still not good to do,"
What's not 'good' about it?

"however if you have these answers, why don't you give these instead? "
Because no one's really asking and if they do ask i'm not obligated to give an answer either.

"i do what i can to be useful for Satan,"
What if you just think you're being useful to Satan but you're not? you admit to not knowing me, if you can't even figure out who i am, then how figure out who Satan is?

"as you don't know me."
how many times do i have to tell you? do you know how much i know? do you know what i can see or not? how do you know if i know you or not?

"there aren't precise rules to be Satanists, except respect and of course not committing the stupidity sin that in reality, it means so many things."
If there aren't precise rules to be a Satanist then why are you saying 'except respect and of course not committing the stupidity sin'
Didn't you just contradict yourself?

"if you want to know someone, don't do it through a forum, through JoS flame posts."
I'll do as i please.

"if they didn't expose anything about themselves."
What makes you think they didn't expose themselves?

"if you're Satanist."
Yea what if i'm a Satanist? what if the things i know about you were revealed to me by Satan?
What if i'm here to help you with your problems?
Do you know me?

"tell me where did i make a personal assumption about you"
How many times must i say it? how much time must i waste on you?
here are some:

• how can you observe someone's energy from how they write? i mean it depends, but from an average forum member?
• if someone writes crazy stuff or tells something personal about them, you can be able to know.
• but, why are you assuming things about me,
• you are an ex-JoS member
• i know you want to make questions about everything and question whatever stuff
• you don't know me.
• you're just assuming stuff.

Like honestly have you ever thought that maybe you don't know yourself that well?
Have you ever thought that maybe someone else knows you better than yourself?

"i don't even need to write what, because i know what i'm doing."
Okay do that then. I'm done trying to help people, I'm done trying to be nice to people and giving them what they want when they're doing noting for me.
Giving people what they want, yet they're giving me noting in return.
I'm gone.

But before i go, THINK CELESTE, because you're pretty fucking stupid.

Asshole you better be nice to me. Heh heh

oh yea?
I guess we'll see.

Hahaha. Unfortunately most people on the internet take things too seriously on forums over theology while I tend to get amused.

[AnonPoster]

guess i read something wrong about you being an ex JoS member, though. didn't ask for help anyway and shut up, because this is not helping, the way you are doing - idiot.

Careful hanging around these forums, because you will have to deal with people of less-than-positive intentions who attempt to deconstruct your beliefs, perhaps for the sake of destruction alone.

The issues you had at JoS were troubling, but you also have to weight the odds. Was it worth completely leaving, and therefore leaving many other people who could be of help to you?

One job of JoS is to be a spiritual fighting force, and therefore there are high demands placed on the warfare. At the same time, you should not be running yourself ragged trying to hit these standards. It is perfectly fine to tone down the warfare to maintain a balance with other obligations in your life. Hopefully you assume that these ritual schedules are designed to push people, but not break them.

Any organization is bound to have some goals and responsibilities behind it, whether Satanic or not. While it may be stressful to some degree, this also increases the output of work done. This is represented by Saturn and the Nauthiz rune, and therefore if you need help staying disciplined under pressure, use Nauthiz.

Although Satanism has an individual aspect to it, it is only natural that communities and larger goals will form. This itself is not a bad thing, so I hope you do not take your experience with JoS to mean this. Instead, you should simply take a step back and reflect on solutions to your problems, rather than attempting to leave not just the obligations, but also the benefits of an organization behind you.

In regards to your health problems, this relates to fire. Although the Sun has left Leo, you can make use of the Uruz rune, such as during the upcoming Virgo moon for permanently improving your health.

I looked around on JoS, but could not find the thread which gave you troubles. Regardless, I think you should return to the place which does contain people willing to look out for you, as opposed to your experience here.

With your absence on JoS, I had to find and reply to you here, but under worse conditions, maybe I would have not been able to find you at all. That is why you should reconsider totally leaving such communities, as opposed to just taking time off.

Anyway, good luck to you.

[AnonPoster]

Asshole you better be nice to me. Heh heh

oh yea?
I guess we'll see.

Hahaha. Unfortunately most people on the internet take things too seriously on forums over theology while I tend to get amused.

You tend to get 'amused' over those subjects because you are a genetical failure and a mutant thus your actions are according. Retard

[Ipsissimus83]

oh yea?
I guess we'll see.

Hahaha. Unfortunately most people on the internet take things too seriously on forums over theology while I tend to get amused.

You tend to get 'amused' over those subjects because you are a genetical failure and a mutant thus your actions are according. Retard

Theological arguments and debates always amuse me. Its like the Star Wars vs Star Trek argument. Who is stronger Thor or the Hulk? We could argue about this for days and ultimately it would all be a waste of our time because none of those things really exist just like religion.

We are all evolved semi hairless, semi intelligent apes that are groping in the dark for meaning and purpose on the surface of a speck of dust in space. But ultimately there is no purpose and there is no meaning. Birth - eat - sleep - fuck - reproduce and die' rinse and repeat until the sun fades and the planets go cold.

Personally considering the nature of meditation and the desire to communicate with Demons or Satan, apparently they are seem as extra-terrestials come from the sky according to JoS. I take mythology symbolically just like I do for deities as allegories for perhaps "chakras" or concepts of psychology. Like in Mythology we have the legends of demi-gods or mortals that are semi-divine or changelings. These come from the AIR aka Ether or Quintessence element. Which is related to direction of UP, the sky. So the fact myths shows that some "gods" came to create humans or have sexual relations with humanity is allegorical to humanity evolution. Sort of a taoist world-view so to speak.

Of course there will be those who refuse this opinion or view. I don't have to justify or explain why I have that view. Truth is some people can't handle the fact that the universe obviously don't care about their existence but what to feel important and cared for. So they will go to lengths to receive that acceptance. This is where created religion comes in and then you got groups like JoS. Anyone not of that cult is a kike, they are the only way they say. How can you be so damned blind? Seriously....

Oh well, ignorance is bliss I guess.

Good luck to you.

[BirdofFreedom]

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guess i read something wrong about you being an ex JoS member, though. didn't ask for help anyway and shut up, because this is not helping, the way you are doing - idiot.

You just had to open your mouth again didn't you?
You did ask me for help you're just to stupid to realize who i am.

I can be a very patient person but you just had to annoy me.

You're talking about Satan like you know him, you don't know shit.

and no i won't shut up, but you will.
Listen and listen well, i don't want to see you around in t4s anymore, leave this place and don't come back.

[AnonPoster]

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guess i read something wrong about you being an ex JoS member, though. didn't ask for help anyway and shut up, because this is not helping, the way you are doing - idiot.

You just had to open your mouth again didn't you?
You did ask me for help you're just to stupid to realize who i am.

I can be a very patient person but you just had to annoy me.

You're talking about Satan like you know him, you don't know shit.

and no i won't shut up, but you will.
Listen and listen well, i don't want to see you around in t4s anymore, leave this place and don't come back.

BoF looked extremely decent at the beginning and I TOTALLY UNDERSTOOD the frustration with Cobra's controversial actions but strangely she doesn't care about 10 years spent with Jos AS A WHOLE and most importantly with Satan and the Gods.

Wherever somebody comes to you and say 'I 've been for over a decade with Satan but my dedication does not pay off' that person is a major but major red flag. And this applies to Many Others.