The Order of Nine Angles

[Henrik Gustav II]

This thread will concern the Order of Nine Angles. It is necessary to have a thread about the ONA/o9a in order to spread awareness of this cancer which is corrupting Satanism.

This is their wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles

They are a neo-nazi terrorist Satanic cult who are involved in some high profile crimes!

This is their website: http://www.o9a.org/

I just learned recently that David Myatt and the founder of the Joy of Satan were both members of NSM (the National Socialist Movement).

[Henrik Gustav II]

The Order of Nine Angles was recently infiltrated by the intelligence service of the United Kingdom as well as the FBI:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... lots.html

You should not join the Order of Nine Angles under any circumstances. Neither should you associate or befriend an individual who is a member of the ONA.

An American soldier who is a member of the ONA is currently being prosecuted by the US government and Department of Defense for planning a terrorist attack on his own unit with the ONA: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53145806

[HPBlackMamba]

ONA is nothing more than a Nazi cult under the guise of Satanism. If you look at the core of their teachings you will find nothing Satanic and nothing of value. Even the founder of ONA later became an apostate of his own cult. Aside from this, they are pro tyranny which is the opposite of Satanism. The T4S clergy believe in the separation of church and state, so we don't get involved with that kind of thing. Here at the T4S we distance ourselves from political discussions and Nazi ideology.

[HPBlackMamba]

Here is an interesting article on the subject by Diane Vera:

http://theisticsatanism.com/politics/Nazi/index.html

The vast majority of Satanists are not neo-Nazis, and the vast majority of neo-Nazis are not Satanists. But a highly visible minority, among Satanists, have embraced neo-Nazism. The pages below explain why I think their position is utterly crazy.

[Don Danko]

The founder of the ONA later became a Muslim and advocated terrorism in the name of Islam. Mentality ill people with nothing better to do then project their desire to harm other people by cobbled together nonsense are not worth the time. I already did two articles showing that the Nazi Parities inner doctrine was Christianity. The Nazi Party by 1937 shut down the Satanic groups in Germany and arrested their members and destroyed their books.[1]

Source:
The Fraternitas Saturni: History, Doctrine, and Rituals of the Magical Order of the Brotherhood of Saturn: Flowers Ph.D., Stephen

[Don Danko]

The National Socialist movement was a Christian political ideology based on the Nazi Parties inner doctrine of a mystical Germanized Christianity:

Hitler The Christian And Nazi Christianity


Rosenberg, Chamberlin and Nietzsche where the founders of Nazi thought and their mystical doctrine of the Thule Society as well. This is the origin of the doctrine of Nazi Christianity which is called 'Positive Christianity' upon which Hitler believed and built his Reich Church upon. The literal Gospel of an Aryan Christ and Christianity:



"The personality and life of Jesus, whom, Chamberlain and Rosenberg, Nazi Germany's two most influential philosophers, considered as Aryan by race and spirit, as Rosenberg's following passage testifies:

"The Roman Church has emphasized his submissive humility because it wishes to have as many submissive followers as possible. To correct this is a problem for a German revival. To us, Jesus appears as a lord who is conscious of his lordship in the highest and best sense of the term. It is his life which is significant for Germanic men...We discern in the Gospels the might preacher, the ma of wrath in the Temple, the man whom all men followed, not the sacrificial lamb of Jewish prophecy, not the crucified one".

"Thus, Nietzsche (and later the Nazis) despised Judaeo-Christianity as "the anti-Aryan religion par excellence". as a Semitic religion which represents "the revaluation of all Aryan values", and which is hence unworthy of its founder, Jesus Christ, "the noblest man", a "free spirit" whose "un-Jewish, mystical doctrine of the Kingdom of Heaven within us' the Nazis praised as typically Aryan, while Chamberlain saw in the birth of Jesus Christ the most important date in the whole history of mankind:

"The coming of Christ signifies, from the point of view of world's story, the coming of a new human species".

"Indeed, for Chamberlain, Jesus, though of Jewish culture and religion, was definitely not a Jew neither by race nor spirit, implying that pure Aryan blood had been infused into the Galileans who were viewed by the Jews as an alien people:

"Christ was not a Jew... whoever asserts he is is either ignorant or insincere...There is not the slightest foundation for the supposition that Christ's parents were of Jewish descent... The probability that Christ was no Jew, that he had not a drop of genuinely Jewish blood in his veins, is so great that it is almost equivalent to a certainty".

"For Rosenberg, Nazism's philosopher who called for a "Germanic Christianity", contrasting Jesus the Aryan with Paul the Jew, the real Christ was the heroic rebel against the Jewish spirit, a "Son of God" or God-Man, " contrast to the Jewish doctrine of the servant of God", an Aryan Superman who, according to Chamberlain, had brought:

"Not peace but the sword. The life of Jesus Christ is an open declaration of war, not against the forms of civilization, culture and religion, which He found around Him- but certainly against the inner spirit of mankind, against the motives which underlie their action, against the goal which they set for themselves in the future life and in the present".



"For Nietzsche, "The church is precisely that against which Jesus preached- and against which he taught his disciples to fight"....And thus, Christianity which ironically took its name from its radically different original founder and the Church, are regarded by Nietzsche as the exact antitheses to the Gospel, to Christ's spirit and practice, and therefore, the "world-historical irony" lay in the fact "that mankind should fall on its knees before the opposite of what was the original, the meaning, the right of the Gospel."

"Hence the heroic and mystical spirit of Jesus Christ is sharply contrasted with the Jewish cowardly, materialistic, and base spirit. Hitler in fact says that the:

"Jews' life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine".

Nietzsche's following:

"Jesus had done away with the concept 'guilt' instilling-he had denied any chasm between God and man, he lived this unity of God and man as his 'glad tiding'..."What did Christ deny? Everything that is today called Christian...precisely that which is Christian in the ecclesiastical sense is anti-Christian in essence: things and people instead of symbols; history instead of eternal facts; forms, rites, dogmas instead of a way of life. Utter indifference to dogmas, cults, priests, church, theology is Christian.. Jesus starts directly with the condition the ''kingdom of Heaven' is in the heart, and he does not bind the means to in in the observances of the Jewish church; the reality of Judaism itself he relates as nothing; he is purely inward He likewise ignores the entire system of crude formalities governing intercourse with God: he opposes the whole teaching of repentance and atonement; he demonstrates how one must live in order to feel 'deified' and how one will not achieve it through repentance and contrition for one sins; 'sin is of no account' in his central judgment... The Kingdom of Heaven is a condition of the heart...not something 'above the earth'. The Kingdom of God does not 'come' chronologically-historically,, on a certain day in the calendar, something that might be here one day but not the day before: it is an 'inward change in the individual', something that comes at every moment and at every moment has not yet arrived".

Thus spoke Nietzsche:
"To resume I shall now relate the real history of Christianity The word 'Christianity ' is already a misunderstanding in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross. The Evangel' died on the Cross. What was called 'Evangel' from this moment onwards was already the opposite of what he had lived: 'bad tidings', a dyangel...Only Christian practice, a life such as he who died on the cross lived, is Christian...Even today, such a life is possible for certain men even necessary genuine primitive Christianity will be possible at all times ...Not a belief but a going, above all a not doing of many things a different being..."

For Nietzsche:

"Christianity was an inner experience, a practice, and not an outward "truth"...Therefore true Christianity does not come from blind adherence to a limited set of ideas God, the Beyond, Heaven...what Nietzsche termed "crude answers", but from a direct personal encounter with the spiritual reality with the "God within".

"Adopting Nietzsche's views on Christ and Christianity, the Nazis also believed that true Christianity was base on the mystical concept "the kingdom of heaven is within us", and Chamberlain, basing himself on Christ's own words: "the kingdom of God cometh not with the observation: neither shall they say, lo here or lo there. Fro behold. the Kingdom of God is within you" acknowledges this concept of an inner Christ:

"Theses words of Christ have, however, as we can see, never the character of a doctrine...Down through the ages we hear the words 'Learn of me' and we understand what they mean: to be as Christ was, to live as Christ lived, to die as Christ died, that is the Kingdom of God, that is eternal life".

"Hitler rejected the "servile Judeo-Christian religion of weakness and pity" advocating the belief in a stronger heroic faith, a belief in God which would be inseparable from the Aryan's festive and his blood a faith that does not reject and negate this life in favor of a life in the "beyond" an Aryan religion for free men, who, in Alfred Rosenberg's own words, "know and fell that God is within them"

Hitler's public proclamation of Christianity was in accordance with his own actual belief in it:

"In 1922, a decade before Hitler took power, former Prime Minister of Bavaria Count von Lerchenfeld-Köfering stated in a speech before the Landtag of Bavaria that his beliefs "as a man and a Christian" prevented him from being an anti-Semite or from pursuing anti-Semitic public policies. Hitler turned Lerchenfeld's perspective of Jesus on its head, telling a crowd in Munich:

"I would like here to appeal to a greater than I, Count Lerchenfeld. He said in the last session of the Landtag that his feeling 'as a man and a Christian' prevented him from being an anti-Semite. I say: My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice."[1]

In a 1928 speech, he said: "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."[2]"



Source:
All unnumbered quotes are from: Nietzsche, Prophet Of Nazism: The Cult Of The Superman, Abir Taha

[1]Speech delivered at Munich 12 April 1922; from Norman H. Baynes, ed. (1942). The Speeches of Adolf Hitler: April 1922 – August 1939. Vol. 1. New York: Oxford University Press. p. 19.
[2] Speech in Passau 27 October 1928 Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf; from Richard Steigmann-Gall (2003). Holy Reich: Nazi conceptions of Christianity, 1919–1945. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp. 60–61


Nazi Christianity 2 German Jesus And His Chosen People

The book: 'Atlantis Edda & Bible by Hermann Wieland (1925)' was ordered banned and destroyed by the Allied forces after the second war from reports for being the actual bible of Nazi Christianity. This book highlights what the actual Aryan Christianity that Hitler, Rosenberg, Himmler and the Nazi doctrine espoused. That was written on in the previous article.

Aryan Christianity is literally based on the ideology the Germans where the original 'Chosen People' of the Bible including Jesus. And the ancient Hebrews stole this from them and are the false 'Chosen People' also called 'Master Race' in this book. This book shows Nazism was Judaism for Germans. Its no mistake this came from a Protestant nation.

From the introduction of the book:

"Dollinger succeeded in that his first work to show us the proof that Jesus was not a Jew, but in fact an Aryan and that Christianity originated from a German-Aryan source and that many of the ancient Jewish cultures and allegedly Jewish culture of Palestine where indeed Germanic instead. It is thus that we Germans have been instilled for 2,000 years by the Jews of their being the Chosen People"..."

"In the following pages the attempt will now be made to solve the final riddle of the Bible and the reader will see in amazement in how a great effort has been in the last 2,500 years by unscrupulous thieves and skillful literally forgers to distort venerable Aryan holy writings to exchange the Jewish people as the "Master Race" of the world and to make the Germans into their servants..."

"The result of our current struggles as German people will be determined entirely by our critical ideas. If we persist in believing in the international ideals instilled by Judea and Rome then we will lose despite all these temporary successes. But if we keep to the facts stated here and our base beliefs on a reclaimed Aryan Christianity and its racial laws then we will be assured a bloodly victory over the cabal of our worldly enemies..."

From the tenth chapter the Germans are the 12 tribes of Israel:

"It is the German people (Kelien/Thelen/Helden, Heroes) that the house of Israel refers to when they speak of lambs and sheep. Jesus wanted the lost sheep of the house of Israel to once again be found in other words to be reunited in one kingdom. Indeed the name "Israel" is itself an ancient Germanic designation for the various German tribes that existed long before any Jews came to live in Palestine. The name itself originally related to the German tribes that emigrated to this area of Palestine mountains and Carmel mountain. The Hebrews have appropriated this name in their maneuverings so that they might be viewed by others as belonging to a higher bred race and so they can be viewed as Gods "chosen ones". The original twelve tribes of Israel are the twelve Germanic tribes and are not as such Hebrew."


From the chapter on: 'The historical Jesus"

"The Jews themselves thus know perfectly well this is indeed a historical personage. So are the Gospels if correctly understood as a work of immense scope and high moral significance, then the poetry of any specific peoples? Are they poetry of the Jews? impossible! The high moral spirit that shines from the Gospels. and which Goethe could not boast of enough, could simply not have sprung from the brain of a Hebrew. As our racial researchers can rightfully testify. It is certainly guaranteed that these Ebraer, these Hebrews would also thus have taken great care to ensure these teachings of Jesus which are in fact diametrically opposed to the worldview of the teachings of the Jews never be allowed to be claimed by the German world in which they so thoroughly despise. Least they themselves be flung to their own demise.

Absolutely not! Jesus was not one of theirs with their endless schemes of world subversion; the teachings of Jesus instead come from a deep knowledge of nature and the extermination of the weeds of humanity (see chapter 37). This spirit never could have come from a Jew; it could only have spurted from a Germanic a son of god (the Goths). The abysmal hatred of Jesus and his teachings and the cross are all manifested in the blasphemous "sacred" writings of the Jews. This undoubtedly then has some sort of historical background to it. This Jesus most have been a Germanic personality of an intensely singular importance..."

"There can be little doubt then he was one of the brave few that pointed out the dangers of mixing with these children of the Devil. And thus one of the brave few to demand their extermination during the times of Aryan troubles. Thus he must have been of the valiant few to stand and enter into combat against them and their bloody sacrifice rituals and customs. It thus quite an obvious fact he must have been persecuted with limitless anger and pursued by the Ebraer of the entire world.

Jesus and his teachings have therefore not originated from Judaism. Those who deny this must then deny political, nature and racial scientific truths and truths."

"We find in the Christian church the association of the Jesus Christ with the Germans through his representation in his coat of arms as proto Germanic cross combined with the symbol of the sun. Or even more directly as the symbol of the German people themselves, the lamb. He must therefore be considered according to his ancient family, tribal coats of arms as a Germanic king of this there can be doubt."

"Mount Calvary was a worship site for the ancient Canaanite Germans who where subjugated by the Hebrews..."

"For the Germans of Palestine, Jesus was known by a varied different names. He was called "the divine son" the Messiah, or the Christus "the anointed one". Which designated he was from a royal bloodline. He was also called the Arch Angel Michael or even Joshua which meant "help from god" "savior" or "redeemer"...

"With time the Galilean and Sarmatian Germans began to increasing mix with the Jews from the south; this unfortunate circumstance gave the Hebrews the opportunity to get their hands on the records and the sagas of the Germans! In addition these hostile Jews blended themselves in with the Germans of the Middle East with the rites of baptism in order to obtain a more direct and dominate influence over them and their ancestor Jesus. These deceptive Hebrews then gained access to the legends and histories of Esus and then falsified both them and the genealogy of Jesus so as to make it appear he was the offspring of the Jews."

"Thus these snake and dragon people where made to appear as the "Holy and chosen ones of God". This was indeed a diabolical political move of the first order. One which brought disasters of every kind in its wake to the Germanic peoples."


From chapter 37:

"The great wars of the world are more then the struggles of ideals. The Aryan-Christ and nationalist ideal are opposed to the internationalist ideal. On behalf of German-Teutonic Christianity and the German nation itself we will therefore enter into the final and decisive battle between the Aryan god and the pagan animal-men; and annihilate them and then like the Japhetite's of the Bible we will "dwell" in the tents of Shem and Ham. ie,. we will settle their lands with our own Germanic and Aryan country men. Throw away these imaginary, falsified and mendacious word of "love thy enemies" and instead march foreword to crush these animals! The guiding light that will charge our struggles is the racial laws of the "Old Testament" (our "old covenant") and the Gospels of Jesus, i.e,. The "good news' of the protection and deification of Aryanism. Under the battle-flag of the ancient Aryan Christian cross and the ancient swastika we will regain the ancient Germanic lands that have been stolen from us over the centuries and we will regain greater Germania."



Sources:
All quotes from:
Atlantis Edda & Bible by Hermann Wieland (1925)

[Henrik Gustav II]

The ONA is a group of very bad people who misrepresent Satanism.

One of their prominent members and prolific writers named Ryan was recently jailed for messaging and grooming children:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-56044179

There is known to be a coven of the ONA in Romania which kidnaps young teenage girls and force these girls into prostitution.

[Loveoftruth]

The ONA is a group of very bad people who misrepresent Satanism.

One of their prominent members and prolific writers named Ryan was recently jailed for messaging and grooming children:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-56044179

There is known to be a coven of the ONA in Romania which kidnaps young teenage girls and force these girls into prostitution.

After reading all of this I am starting to wonder if the JoS isn't connected with the order of nine angles in some way. I remember that I had this thought long ago when I was an active member of their forum since their beliefs are so similar. Someone once showed me a link that said Clifford Harrington molested a twelve year old teen and is wanted by the police, I don't know if it is true though.

[HPSZolaLuckyStar]

No wonder people hear Satanist and jump to the conclusion we're a bunch of child molesters! So DISGUSTING. I have always said real Satanists would not do such sick things, as it goes against our core tenets (not to mention completely revolting). A child abuser rapist pedophile does far more than sexual assault. Which for an adult can be difficult to get over. For a child, it destroys them. It is in essence (to me) a form of murder. Since that person is destroyed. It's the ultimate depraved act, destroying a person just for sexual gratification and a power trip.

[Henrik Gustav II]

Most of the people who are involved in the ONA are despicable and disgusting.

They are indeed a Nazi Cult. In their own words, they even openly admit that National Socialism, as revised by David Myatt, is their religion:

https://archive.org/details/nexion-zi ... /mode/1up

The Order of Nine Angles have taken things regarding Nazism to an absurd level, where they have even deified Hitler as a God. In an essay titled "Adolf Hitler As Dark God," they made Hitler one of the Gods of their pantheon: https://archive.org/details/nexion-zin ... mode/1up

They state in their own words that they are not Satanists. That they only use Satanism as a tool for their own ends. But they do have a religion and a God.