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AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:57 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:52 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:55 am you made a good point about the enemy not bothering at all about their existence, I wonder why there is not even defamation against them. Their youtube videos and channel are still up, I think thats a bad indication of their competence. I don't know what Satan thinks about the JOS

I have an answer to that. For one, only top ones know what they are doing while the rest are following blindly just like christians.
2ndly i guess they would not want to attract attention to jos even accidentally most probably this are kind of operations that require discretion if you know what I mean.
3rd reason. The current would still continue if they eliminate the leaders ^it's a pointless act.
Instead, they fight spiritually while the ones bellow might even laugh hearing about reptilians and etc.
Ot very much depends on the perspective.
And let's not forget that the Gods are guarding places dedicated to Satan which is maybe the main reason.

are they answers or are they speculations?

if satan is guarding things then how are others following blindly like christians? in christianity it is only faith and natural disasters cause churches to be flooded when the "leader" says gay is wrong, in satanism it is working ourselves actually doing things not just having faith if you call working to make things happen blind and sheeply and christian then lol

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:09 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:57 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:52 pm

I have an answer to that. For one, only top ones know what they are doing while the rest are following blindly just like christians.
2ndly i guess they would not want to attract attention to jos even accidentally most probably this are kind of operations that require discretion if you know what I mean.
3rd reason. The current would still continue if they eliminate the leaders ^it's a pointless act.
Instead, they fight spiritually while the ones bellow might even laugh hearing about reptilians and etc.
Ot very much depends on the perspective.
And let's not forget that the Gods are guarding places dedicated to Satan which is maybe the main reason.

are they answers or are they speculations?

if satan is guarding things then how are others following blindly like christians? in christianity it is only faith and natural disasters cause churches to be flooded when the "leader" says gay is wrong, in satanism it is working ourselves actually doing things not just having faith if you call working to make things happen blind and sheeply and christian then lol

If you want to take it like this, everything is speculation including our very own existence. It was Obvisouly just an Opinion.

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:37 pm My Anonymous Brethren, led me your hearts.

You miss the point of my post, friends. I insist we end our speculations regarding the Joy of Satan, for our attention is better focused on more important things.

This group is better suited for a libertarian Satanic reform, it's original intended purpose, than a collective criticism of Joy of Satan.

Go anywhere outside of the Joy of Satan community, ask people what they think about the Joy of Satan. I have, allow me to paraphrase what they have said -

"What's that?", and "That Anti-Semitic internet cult? What a joke!"

Seek those who have been with Joy of Satan since the beginning, and you will often hear their disinterest in Hooded Cobra's authority and general affairs of the reformed Joy of Satan. It cannot be argued that Cobra hasn't heavily reformed the JoS, often in bizarre ways. The contradictions Cobra makes against Maxine's teachings are numerous. I will not speculate regarding my "accusations". If people insist I'm lying, I'm sure Birdoffreedom will elaborate in more detail. Moving on.

Seek any experienced person in the Occult that hasn't been brainwashed by Cobra and ask their opinions regarding the RTRs, the recent Abraxas rituals, etc. Usually, the verdict is confusion and dismission. Ask them do they believe their meditation page consists of valuable knowledge, most will say no but this is untrue. The Joy of Satan stole the work of other Satanic authors and never even mentioned them and insisted Lord Azazel was their direct source of knowledge. The original rituals JoS has created are profoundly bizarre, if they work at all they are unnecessarily complicated. Ask them do they recognize Hooded Cobra's authority as the leading High Priest of the Joy of Satan, the only group today that Satan authorizes. They will often find this question insulting or humorous, ask them this last as they are likely to cease speaking to you.

When a ritual has strange methodology used when simpler methods are known and applicable, for example strange runes and sigils, affirmations written in dead languages, utilizing enemy magickal systems nobody really understands, people have every right to say NO or ask for further information. These just plainly bizarre tactics are often used by Cobra. When people ask why these things are done, they are immediately silenced. This is not okay, and if any people from the Joy of Satan disagree with this observation, I insist you ask him yourself and find out.

Again, none of this matters because anything regarding something irrelevant is irrelevant. I insist we move on.

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:48 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:09 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:57 pm
are they answers or are they speculations?

if satan is guarding things then how are others following blindly like christians? in christianity it is only faith and natural disasters cause churches to be flooded when the "leader" says gay is wrong, in satanism it is working ourselves actually doing things not just having faith if you call working to make things happen blind and sheeply and christian then lol

If you want to take it like this, everything is speculation including our very own existence. It was Obvisouly just an Opinion.

your existence is speculation? lol

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:37 pm My Anonymous Brethren, led me your hearts.

You miss the point of my post, friends. I insist we end our speculations regarding the Joy of Satan, for our attention is better focused on more important things.

This group is better suited for a libertarian Satanic reform, it's original intended purpose, than a collective criticism of Joy of Satan.

Go anywhere outside of the Joy of Satan community, ask people what they think about the Joy of Satan. I have, allow me to paraphrase what they have said -

"What's that?", and "That Anti-Semitic internet cult? What a joke!"

Seek those who have been with Joy of Satan since the beginning, and you will often hear their disinterest in Hooded Cobra's authority and general affairs of the reformed Joy of Satan. It cannot be argued that Cobra hasn't heavily reformed the JoS, often in bizarre ways. The contradictions Cobra makes against Maxine's teachings are numerous. I will not speculate regarding my "accusations". If people insist I'm lying, I'm sure Birdoffreedom will elaborate in more detail. Moving on.

Seek any experienced person in the Occult that hasn't been brainwashed by Cobra and ask their opinions regarding the RTRs, the recent Abraxas rituals, etc. Usually, the verdict is confusion and dismission. Ask them do they believe their meditation page consists of valuable knowledge, most will say no but this is untrue. The Joy of Satan stole the work of other Satanic authors and never even mentioned them and insisted Lord Azazel was their direct source of knowledge. The original rituals JoS has created are profoundly bizarre, if they work at all they are unnecessarily complicated. Ask them do they recognize Hooded Cobra's authority as the leading High Priest of the Joy of Satan, the only group today that Satan authorizes. They will often find this question insulting or humorous, ask them this last as they are likely to cease speaking to you.

When a ritual has strange methodology used when simpler methods are known and applicable, for example strange runes and sigils, affirmations written in dead languages, utilizing enemy magickal systems nobody really understands, people have every right to say NO or ask for further information. These just plainly bizarre tactics are often used by Cobra. When people ask why these things are done, they are immediately silenced. This is not okay, and if any people from the Joy of Satan disagree with this observation, I insist you ask him yourself and find out.

Again, none of this matters because anything regarding something irrelevant is irrelevant. I insist we move on.

are these things you said provable? about mentioning others in texts, there are many references and credits given

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:45 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:48 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:09 pm
If you want to take it like this, everything is speculation including our very own existence. It was Obvisouly just an Opinion.

your existence is speculation? lol

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:37 pm My Anonymous Brethren, led me your hearts.

You miss the point of my post, friends. I insist we end our speculations regarding the Joy of Satan, for our attention is better focused on more important things.

This group is better suited for a libertarian Satanic reform, it's original intended purpose, than a collective criticism of Joy of Satan.

Go anywhere outside of the Joy of Satan community, ask people what they think about the Joy of Satan. I have, allow me to paraphrase what they have said -

"What's that?", and "That Anti-Semitic internet cult? What a joke!"

Seek those who have been with Joy of Satan since the beginning, and you will often hear their disinterest in Hooded Cobra's authority and general affairs of the reformed Joy of Satan. It cannot be argued that Cobra hasn't heavily reformed the JoS, often in bizarre ways. The contradictions Cobra makes against Maxine's teachings are numerous. I will not speculate regarding my "accusations". If people insist I'm lying, I'm sure Birdoffreedom will elaborate in more detail. Moving on.

Seek any experienced person in the Occult that hasn't been brainwashed by Cobra and ask their opinions regarding the RTRs, the recent Abraxas rituals, etc. Usually, the verdict is confusion and dismission. Ask them do they believe their meditation page consists of valuable knowledge, most will say no but this is untrue. The Joy of Satan stole the work of other Satanic authors and never even mentioned them and insisted Lord Azazel was their direct source of knowledge. The original rituals JoS has created are profoundly bizarre, if they work at all they are unnecessarily complicated. Ask them do they recognize Hooded Cobra's authority as the leading High Priest of the Joy of Satan, the only group today that Satan authorizes. They will often find this question insulting or humorous, ask them this last as they are likely to cease speaking to you.

When a ritual has strange methodology used when simpler methods are known and applicable, for example strange runes and sigils, affirmations written in dead languages, utilizing enemy magickal systems nobody really understands, people have every right to say NO or ask for further information. These just plainly bizarre tactics are often used by Cobra. When people ask why these things are done, they are immediately silenced. This is not okay, and if any people from the Joy of Satan disagree with this observation, I insist you ask him yourself and find out.

Again, none of this matters because anything regarding something irrelevant is irrelevant. I insist we move on.

are these things you said provable? about mentioning others in texts, there are many references and credits given

Oh, give me a break and stop trying to sound smart.

Your all prerogative is 'ask people about x, ask people about Y'

How about I don't ask anybody? The majority of people are anyway retarded

If you have a clear opinion about those things, WRITE IT UP and that's it.

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:18 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:45 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:48 pm
your existence is speculation? lol


are these things you said provable? about mentioning others in texts, there are many references and credits given

Oh, give me a break and stop trying to sound smart.

Your all prerogative is 'ask people about x, ask people about Y'

How about I don't ask anybody? The majority of people are anyway retarded

If you have a clear opinion about those things, WRITE IT UP and that's it.

im not trying to be "smart" is what you said provable? there ARE many references and credits given

how is any of that trying to be "smart"?

my all prerogative? i was told to not try to be "smart" and then you say that

"how about"? i have no idea how you go about these things
"are anyway retarded"? which way?
if the majority of people are retarded, then help them, you make claims but then attack when asked "is it provable?" and when told "many references and credits are given"; most people are retarded? its amazing you know that

a clear opinion as opposed to a cloudy opinion? my opinion doesnt matter, im asking you is what you said provable, and i am telling you there are many references and credits given

is what you said provable? oh sorry you want a break from having to prove your claims

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:18 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:45 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:48 pm
your existence is speculation? lol


are these things you said provable? about mentioning others in texts, there are many references and credits given

Oh, give me a break and stop trying to sound smart.

Your all prerogative is 'ask people about x, ask people about Y'

How about I don't ask anybody? The majority of people are anyway retarded

If you have a clear opinion about those things, WRITE IT UP and that's it.

im not trying to be "smart" is what you said provable? there ARE many references and credits given

how is any of that trying to be "smart"?

my all prerogative? i was told to not try to be "smart" and then you say that

"how about"? i have no idea how you go about these things
"are anyway retarded"? which way?
if the majority of people are retarded, then help them, you make claims but then attack when asked "is it provable?" and when told "many references and credits are given"; most people are retarded? its amazing you know that

a clear opinion as opposed to a cloudy opinion? my opinion doesnt matter, im asking you is what you said provable, and i am telling you there are many references and credits given

is what you said provable? oh sorry you want a break from having to prove your claims

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:28 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:18 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:45 pm
Oh, give me a break and stop trying to sound smart.

Your all prerogative is 'ask people about x, ask people about Y'

How about I don't ask anybody? The majority of people are anyway retarded

If you have a clear opinion about those things, WRITE IT UP and that's it.

im not trying to be "smart" is what you said provable? there ARE many references and credits given

how is any of that trying to be "smart"?

my all prerogative? i was told to not try to be "smart" and then you say that

"how about"? i have no idea how you go about these things
"are anyway retarded"? which way?
if the majority of people are retarded, then help them, you make claims but then attack when asked "is it provable?" and when told "many references and credits are given"; most people are retarded? its amazing you know that

a clear opinion as opposed to a cloudy opinion? my opinion doesnt matter, im asking you is what you said provable, and i am telling you there are many references and credits given

is what you said provable? oh sorry you want a break from having to prove your claims

...


Look man, there's three of us talking right now, not just two. It's confusing to tell who youre speaking to on the anonposter, it confuses me all the time anyway.

What the OP wrote (what I wrote) isn't something that I think should need evidence. It's self evident. The Joy of Satan doesn't matter to people outside of their community. This is true for most cases, why should I prove this common sense situation is real and why should I write a fucking book in order for you to see what I'm saying.

Anyway, if you're so interested in looking at whether Joy of Satan even has impact in the real world, ask people. Don't just take my word for it. How could I give evidence for their perspectives in a way that wouldn't be suspected to be biased data collection? No, the most reasonable thing to do is suggest that people gather their own evidence for this, instead of me doing it for you and it not being believable.

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:48 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:28 pm

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:18 pm
im not trying to be "smart" is what you said provable? there ARE many references and credits given

how is any of that trying to be "smart"?

my all prerogative? i was told to not try to be "smart" and then you say that

"how about"? i have no idea how you go about these things
"are anyway retarded"? which way?
if the majority of people are retarded, then help them, you make claims but then attack when asked "is it provable?" and when told "many references and credits are given"; most people are retarded? its amazing you know that

a clear opinion as opposed to a cloudy opinion? my opinion doesnt matter, im asking you is what you said provable, and i am telling you there are many references and credits given

is what you said provable? oh sorry you want a break from having to prove your claims

...


Look man, there's three of us talking right now, not just two. It's confusing to tell who youre speaking to on the anonposter, it confuses me all the time anyway.

What the OP wrote (what I wrote) isn't something that I think should need evidence. It's self evident. The Joy of Satan doesn't matter to people outside of their community. This is true for most cases, why should I prove this common sense situation is real and why should I write a fucking book in order for you to see what I'm saying.

Anyway, if you're so interested in looking at whether Joy of Satan even has impact in the real world, ask people. Don't just take my word for it. How could I give evidence for their perspectives in a way that wouldn't be suspected to be biased data collection? No, the most reasonable thing to do is suggest that people gather their own evidence for this, instead of me doing it for you and it not being believable.

Joy of Satan doesn't matter outside their community. Catholics don't matter outside their community. Jews don't matter outside their community. Lions don't matter outside their community. Air doesn't matter outside in the outer space.

All yadda yadda with no substance. I am sorry, again, no intention to insult you. Bring better arguments.