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Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:23 pm
by Don Danko333
Something about Satan I got in my meditations on his sigil, Satan helps people in their life to achieve their goals. He is also a cross roads being like the old Witchcraft ritual has the pact to him at the cross roads a magical place. He opens the cross roads to help people get to their goals.

Satan explained to me the past what was happening how he was helping me and such it was interesting to find all this out.

Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:27 pm
by HPSZolaLuckyStar
"He opens the cross roads to help people get to their goals."

Eleggua also opens the crossroads. thats interesting.

Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:29 pm
by Don Danko333
My opinion from my experience is the cross roads are a liminal place I don't know why but they have this power. However I believe in the general a person is on one road and each step is creating the energy of their life and the path the road will take them on. At the cross roads a person makes the choice to change their path and their fate and the energy it travels on. That is a magical act.
HPSZolaLuckyStar wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:27 pm "He opens the cross roads to help people get to their goals."

Eleggua also opens the crossroads. thats interesting.

Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:42 pm
by HPSZolaLuckyStar
Yes, a space between spaces, a boundary between two points in space or time, or both. Like a portal between realities. My own experience of this is when your life energy force (the animating presence that is you) is passing out of the material universe (your avatar, your body) into the non linear or non physical, that point of transmission from one state to the other is a kind of crossroads too. It's interesting to me that this is where Serapis told me his name.

Maybe the power is the membrane separating is thin there allowing transmission. Just speculating.
“However I believe in the general a person is on one road and each step is creating the energy of their life and the path the road will take them on. At the cross roads a person makes the choice to change their path and their fate and the energy it travels on. That is a magical act.”
I like that too. I think that's true also.

Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:59 am
by Don Danko333
I note in the ancient Greek and Roman world they would put a Mercury pillar or Hekaton at the middle of the cross roads this acted as energy pillar at the liminal place.
HPSZolaLuckyStar wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:42 pm Yes, a space between spaces, a boundary between two points in space or time, or both. Like a portal between realities. My own experience of this is when your life energy force (the animating presence that is you) is passing out of the material universe (your avatar, your body) into the non linear or non physical, that point of transmission from one state to the other is a kind of crossroads too. It's interesting to me that this is where Serapis told me his name.

Maybe the power is the membrane separating is thin there allowing transmission. Just speculating.
“However I believe in the general a person is on one road and each step is creating the energy of their life and the path the road will take them on. At the cross roads a person makes the choice to change their path and their fate and the energy it travels on. That is a magical act.”
I like that too. I think that's true also.

Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:02 am
by Don Danko333
Satan in my meditations on the subject would be considered a infernal deity.

Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:08 pm
by Seeker
Don Danko333 wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:44 am Satan exists he is the highest ranking infernal spirit.

When I asked Gusion he answered me in the context of my question about a Christian Satan [fallen angel]. However I was studying the grimoire, Clavis Inferinal Ars Goetia, there is a chapter with a sigil of Satan from an older European Witchcraft tradition and how to pact to Satan. I meditated on the sigil and contacted the realm of the spirit.

Satan is an infernal spirit, he is the high ranking infernal spirit. This is what I was told by Satan.

He contacted me when I was younger on his own because I resonated with him. He directed me to the JOS because it was the best place for me to develop my spiritual power and magical ability. I was able to accomplish this mission, however due to the problems within the JOS I had to leave and I had to leave the infernal current because of Demons that where around who I did not resonate with and their energy I needed to detox. However I can handle Satan's energy fine that is why he resonated with me. I should only work with Satan. Satan was the spirit that showed up and told me the search terms to find the JOS and the spirit that answered me when I asked him if he is real. He was also the spirit that was communicating with me while I was there and after.

Satan stated that Maxine created much of the JOS of her own conjecture, it was simply about me finding a place in which I could advanced myself personally. Satan stated what he wants is for people to advance themselves and gain independence and work on developing their magical skills and power. Satan stated he has no problem with me leaving due to the reasons I had to leave.

I would recommend people work on developing their psychic abilities and working with Satan one on one. Drop the dogma of others like Lavey and Maxine. Satan does want people to worship him and their loyalty and to work with them.
Alright, I have a few questions I figured I'd ask.

1. "However I was studying the grimoire, Clavis Inferinal Ars Goetia, there is a chapter with a sigil of Satan from an older European Witchcraft tradition and how to pact to Satan"

Are you willing to share the alternative sigil for Satan that you found to be successful? The original sigils for the demons, which are likely superior in functionality, were either destroyed entirely or now is hoarded at the Vatican, among other occult relics. I don't have a copy of this grimoire, and I imagine most people don't either. I could just buy it, but fuck it I'd rather not.

2. "Satan stated what he wants is for people to advance themselves and gain independence and work on developing their magical skills and power"

Why would he want this, when the demons who serve him (correct me on that if you think I'm wrong) seemingly prefer to make shitty contracts with people to exploit them, much like how employers do irl. IMO there's very little sentimentality, which might be the reason these demons don't really go out of their way to help their "employees" when in need, such as maxine drowning in a lake or when cobra struggles to pay the bills of the jos sites (supposedly).

3, etc. Off topic questions - Do you think Lucifer and Satan are the same entity? Lucifer is very likely Amon Ra, Zeus and Thor, while Marduk probably never existed at all (as far as I can make sense of things). What does it mean as well for Satan to be an "infernal entity"?

I'm trying to not see you flip flopping on these topics as a genuine uncertainty rather than anything else. At the end of the day, all of us are only human and make mistakes, even when some of us have or claim to have a wider and/or more indepth perspective than what might be considered average.

Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:10 pm
by Seeker
Sun wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:54 pm Finally some sense. I would write you more. more on the research area and some really amazing rhings but your friend would delete and not approve it regardless. Maybe I will become more active on jos when time will allow...

Please don't be a traitor I love you and HC forever and ever ♥️ you are my wonderful family
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Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:05 am
by Don Danko333
While Sun, seeker and whatever name you want to use. Why do you complain like you know something but are always asking questions like your a day late and a dollar short.... Are you just a stupid person or something? Why do you always switch your accounts around like your up to something... You complain and accuse me and then ask me for help... You stated here your just plain fucking lazy. Just demanding a hand out then...
Seeker wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:08 pm
Alright, I have a few questions I figured I'd ask.

1. "However I was studying the grimoire, Clavis Inferinal Ars Goetia, there is a chapter with a sigil of Satan from an older European Witchcraft tradition and how to pact to Satan"

Are you willing to share the alternative sigil for Satan that you found to be successful? The original sigils for the demons, which are likely superior in functionality, were either destroyed entirely or now is hoarded at the Vatican, among other occult relics. I don't have a copy of this grimoire, and I imagine most people don't either. I could just buy it, but fuck it I'd rather not.

2. "Satan stated what he wants is for people to advance themselves and gain independence and work on developing their magical skills and power"

Why would he want this, when the demons who serve him (correct me on that if you think I'm wrong) seemingly prefer to make shitty contracts with people to exploit them, much like how employers do irl. IMO there's very little sentimentality, which might be the reason these demons don't really go out of their way to help their "employees" when in need, such as maxine drowning in a lake or when cobra struggles to pay the bills of the jos sites (supposedly).

3, etc. Off topic questions - Do you think Lucifer and Satan are the same entity? Lucifer is very likely Amon Ra, Zeus and Thor, while Marduk probably never existed at all (as far as I can make sense of things). What does it mean as well for Satan to be an "infernal entity"?

I'm trying to not see you flip flopping on these topics as a genuine uncertainty rather than anything else. At the end of the day, all of us are only human and make mistakes, even when some of us have or claim to have a wider and/or more indepth perspective than what might be considered average.

Re: Satan Exists And What He Wants

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:12 am
by Don Danko333
Something on the topic, the sigil in the book I mentioned has an infernal spirit that gives answers I got on meditation on this sigil this spirit set up the pact within this context this a long term and binding pact based on what is mentioned. The mainstream sigil of Satan is based on the collective energy of human belief around this ideology its a thought form. That is why the sigil in the book is more important its an actual infernal spirit.

This infernal spirit is going by the title of Satan. You will be working with a powerful infernal spirit. The concepts of Satan as infernal deity I got from the mainstream sigil. The infernal spirits work on pacts directly. That is why you need to pact with them to work with them and get results.