The Not New, But New Philosophy of Mx. Retrograde

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HPBlackMamba wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:18 am From what I understand from my research, It's the cup of Knowledge i.e. the chalice of Lucifer hidden within the Baphomet that makes the symbol Satanic. Baphomet itself represents the path taken by mainstream religions. I really enjoy reading your posts. Keep documenting your philosophical journey. :D
Can you elaborate how Baphomet is mainstream religions?
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Well, TST is quite public and they have their statue which is currently trying to be placed on the Arkansas State capitol (more on that in the Hail Satan? documentary, on Hulu, Youtube, and Prime Video).
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HPBlackMamba wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:18 am From what I understand from my research, It's the cup of Knowledge i.e. the chalice of Lucifer hidden within the Baphomet that makes the symbol Satanic. Baphomet itself represents the path taken by mainstream religions. I really enjoy reading your posts. Keep documenting your philosophical journey. :D
Can you elaborate how Baphomet is mainstream religions?
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My source for this is Eliphas Levi's literature. Dogma et Rituel de la Haute Magie
https://web.archive.org/web/20141222205 ... 0Magic.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20141222205 ... rt%20I.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20141222205 ... t%20II.pdf

All the symbolism for the Baphomet is explained by Eliphas Levi, A.K.A Alphonse Louis Constant.
Also please bear in mind that Eliphas Levi gave us the earliest documented interpretation of the meaning behind the reversed pentagram.
He said “ A reversed pentagram, with two points projecting upwards, is a symbol of evil and attracts sinister forces.”

Right so the meaning of Baphomet is summarized by the pentagram.
The uppermost triangle of the pentagram represents the divine i.e. God, a higher power etc.
The other points represent the elements. When there is a circle around it, it becomes a pentacle. The circle means harmony of the elements and shows us that God is the one who brings order and harmony to everything.



Right So let's unpack the meaning behind the Baphomet.

Above Baphomet's torch there is the light of the divine. This represents God, or a higher power. According to Eliphas Levi, Baphomet is Adam, and the Goat head (The goat of Mendez)represents the sinful or carnal nature of man. All five elements can be seen in Baphomet. Baphomet (Adam) tells us "As above so below". This means that one must submit to authority as is seen in the Lord's prayer.

Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, As it is in heaven. On earth as it is in heaven i.e. as above so below. Baphomet also represents the tree of life.




You will notice that Baphomet has a pentacle on his forehead. This is one of the clues to deciphering the occult secret behind this depiction. Eliphas Levi said, “ A reversed pentagram, with two points projecting upwards, is a symbol of evil and attracts sinister forces.”


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Only when you turn the picture upside down, does the meaning become truly Satanic. We now have the cup of knowledge i.e. the tree of knowledge. The Latin word Lucifer means light-bringing, illumination. In this sense, the divine revelation or enlightenment. The cup of Lucifer.

Baphomet is sitting on a round structure. This is the cup of the chalice. What once was grass, is now liquid spilling out of the cup. The cup of knowledge is always over flowing. Baphomet's horns now allude to the base of the Chalice. The reversed Goat head is the rejection of the notion that Sin and carnality is bad.

What is the divine revelation? The enlightenment? To worship yourself is to drink from the cup of knowledge. This is seen within the symbolism of the Satanic Pentagram itself.

The reversed pentagram points down, this signifies that man is now above the divine. "As above, so below" has fallen away, because man has taken the reigns of destiny into his own hands. It's a symbol of individualism, and ego veneration. Instead of looking to a higher power, those who drank from the cup have an inner power.

This is only a summary. I feel like volumes can be written about the subject.
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mx.retrograde wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:08 am Well, TST is quite public and they have their statue which is currently trying to be placed on the Arkansas State capitol (more on that in the Hail Satan? documentary, on Hulu, Youtube, and Prime Video).
Thunderbolt wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:01 am
HPBlackMamba wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:18 am From what I understand from my research, It's the cup of Knowledge i.e. the chalice of Lucifer hidden within the Baphomet that makes the symbol Satanic. Baphomet itself represents the path taken by mainstream religions. I really enjoy reading your posts. Keep documenting your philosophical journey. :D
Can you elaborate how Baphomet is mainstream religions?
Sometimes I wonder whether TST Satanists, even understand the symbolism. If they do then it's the most hilarious prank ever. Because Christians are outraged thinking that it's a statue of Satan, when in reality it's Adam telling us to praise God lol.
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HPBlackMamba wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:18 am From what I understand from my research, It's the cup of Knowledge i.e. the chalice of Lucifer hidden within the Baphomet that makes the symbol Satanic. Baphomet itself represents the path taken by mainstream religions. I really enjoy reading your posts. Keep documenting your philosophical journey. :D
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HPBlackMamba wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:38 am
mx.retrograde wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:08 am Well, TST is quite public and they have their statue which is currently trying to be placed on the Arkansas State capitol (more on that in the Hail Satan? documentary, on Hulu, Youtube, and Prime Video).
Thunderbolt wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:01 am

Can you elaborate how Baphomet is mainstream religions?
Sometimes I wonder whether TST Satanists, even understand the symbolism. If they do then it's the most hilarious prank ever. Because Christians are outraged thinking that it's a statue of Satan, when in reality it's Adam telling us to praise God lol.
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HPBlackMamba wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:34 am My source for this is Eliphas Levi's literature. Dogma et Rituel de la Haute Magie
https://web.archive.org/web/20141222205 ... 0Magic.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20141222205 ... rt%20I.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20141222205 ... t%20II.pdf

All the symbolism for the Baphomet is explained by Eliphas Levi, A.K.A Alphonse Louis Constant.
Also please bear in mind that Eliphas Levi gave us the earliest documented interpretation of the meaning behind the reversed pentagram.
He said “ A reversed pentagram, with two points projecting upwards, is a symbol of evil and attracts sinister forces.”

Right so the meaning of Baphomet is summarized by the pentagram.
The uppermost triangle of the pentagram represents the divine i.e. God, a higher power etc.
The other points represent the elements. When there is a circle around it, it becomes a pentacle. The circle means harmony of the elements and shows us that God is the one who brings order and harmony to everything.



Right So let's unpack the meaning behind the Baphomet.

Above Baphomet's torch there is the light of the divine. This represents God, or a higher power. According to Eliphas Levi, Baphomet is Adam, and the Goat head (The goat of Mendez)represents the sinful or carnal nature of man. All five elements can be seen in Baphomet. Baphomet (Adam) tells us "As above so below". This means that one must submit to authority as is seen in the Lord's prayer.

Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, As it is in heaven. On earth as it is in heaven i.e. as above so below. Baphomet also represents the tree of life.




You will notice that Baphomet has a pentacle on his forehead. This is one of the clues to deciphering the occult secret behind this depiction. Eliphas Levi said, “ A reversed pentagram, with two points projecting upwards, is a symbol of evil and attracts sinister forces.”


Image
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Only when you turn the picture upside down, does the meaning become truly Satanic. We now have the cup of knowledge i.e. the tree of knowledge. The Latin word Lucifer means light-bringing, illumination. In this sense, the divine revelation or enlightenment. The cup of Lucifer.

Baphomet is sitting on a round structure. This is the cup of the chalice. What once was grass, is now liquid spilling out of the cup. The cup of knowledge is always over flowing. Baphomet's horns now allude to the base of the Chalice. The reversed Goat head is the rejection of the notion that Sin and carnality is bad.

What is the divine revelation? The enlightenment? To worship yourself is to drink from the cup of knowledge. This is seen within the symbolism of the Satanic Pentagram itself.

The reversed pentagram points down, this signifies that man is now above the divine. "As above, so below" has fallen away, because man has taken the reigns of destiny into his own hands. It's a symbol of individualism, and ego veneration. Instead of looking to a higher power, those who drank from the cup have an inner power.

This is only a summary. I feel like volumes can be written about the subject.
You wrote shit on the subject.
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AnonPoster wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:03 am
You wrote shit on the subject.
If you can't explain why, then your criticism is invalid.
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AnonPoster wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:58 am
Bahomet=mahomet

Christian/muslim set up
I agree, Baphomet represents any religion or view that venerates a higher power, most notably the Abrahamic faiths. Sadly this also includes Paganism and Sun worship. The seven steps of Alchemical transmutation, the demiurge and the 7 archons are also alluded to within Baphomet.

Eliphas Levi uses the Baphomet to show us a fork in the road, the two transmutation paths. The first path leads to becoming one with God through the Kabbalistic tree of life. The second one leads to true enlightenment through the cup of knowledge i.e qliphoth. I choose to empower myself by drinking from the Chalice of Lucifer. That is why I venerate an inner power as shown through the symbolism of the reversed pentagram.
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