Satan's family

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Re: Satan's family

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Azazel is sometimes defined as a "form" of Satan. They sure are different entities, but some people define him as an aspect of Satan or the same entity:

""Why do you consider Satan and Azazel to be the same entity?
First, please note that we equate Azazel with the "Satan" of the New Testament, not with "ha-satan" of the Book of Job, who does seem to be a distinct entity.

The name "Azazel" (or rather its Arabic form, "Azazil") has been used for over a thousand years by Muslims as one of their names for the Devil. And this does make sense in terms of at least some of the earlier Hebrew uses of the name.

The ritual of the scapegoat (Leviticus 16:10) makes no sense if Azazel is just another demon. If indeed the "Azazel" of the scapegoat ritual was originally believed to have been a demon at all, then surely the purpose of the ritual would have been to drive away all demons, not just one particular one. If any one demon is to be singled out, then the only demon worth singling out would have to have been the main leader of the pack. In other words, the entity whom Christians call "Satan" or "the Devil." And the parallelism within the ritual itself (one goat for Yahweh, the other goat for Azazel) suggests that Yahweh and Azazel were at one time thought to be figures of similar stature. It certainly does not suggest that Azazel is just a minor player.

It is debatable whether the "Azazel" of the scapegoat ritual was originally a demon of any kind in the first place. The original meaning of the Hebrew word "Azazel" is unknown.

However, during the several centuries immediately before the beginning of the Christian era, many Jews did see Azazel as a spirit opposed to Yahweh, though the literature is not consistent as to Azazel's rank or role. For example, in the Book of Enoch, Azazel seems to be just one member of a group of rebel angels. On the other hand, regarding Azazel, the Book of Enoch also says, "to him ascribe all sin." Note: that's all "sin," not just some of the "sins" resulting from the fallen angels' interactions with humans. So, it appears that the writer of at least one portion of the Book of Enoch thought of Azazel as the Devil.

In the Book of Enoch, Azazel is also portrayed as a teacher of forbidden knowledge. Our choice of the name "Azazel" in "Church of Azazel" reflects our commitment to encouraging our members to think for themselves and to acquire knowledge.

The Book of Enoch didn't make it into the Bible, but it apparently was regarded as scripture by many of the earliest Christians, including at least one of the New Testament writers (see Jude 1:14-15, which quotes the Book of Enoch) and some of the early Church Fathers (see the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Henoch, Book of). So, it is highly likely that the Book of Enoch was a major influence on early Christian ideas about Satan.

(See also the section on Azazel in the Theology of the Church of Azazel.)

Some theistic Satanists have had experiences with a spirit named "Azazel" whom they regard as distinct from Satan. There may well be more than one spirit who answers to the name "Azazel." Even if "Azazel" is also the name of a lesser spirit, it is a legitimate name of Satan Himself too, having been used as a name of Satan/Shaitan for many centuries."


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Don Danko333 wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:06 pm No its a Juedo-Christian ideology from the Jewish Bible to the New Testament and Kabbalah, Talmuds. This is well known. All the occult texts on Satanism come from here.
LockyMoth wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:53 amSatanism has its origins long before the Christian or Judeo-Christian side.
The Yezidihi's are an Islamic group of Sufi's from the Medieval period who came out of Iraq and their founder Sheik Adi was a Muslim Sufi. There Peacock angel is Azazel the fallen Angel of Islam who they claim is the universal watcher for Allah. They state they come from Adam in the garden of edin. That when the other Angels bowed before Adam on commands of Allah that Azazel refused as Allah told no one to bow to any but Allah. For this Azazel/Taus Melek was made the head Angel of the universe. They are Abrahamic's who flow a gnostic Islamic religion.
LockyMoth wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:53 amAlso, never have I ever found neither in Grimmoires nor in other independent sources that Demons are from Qlippothic energetic zones.

That's strange because its well known in the LHP community the high ranking demons rule the different sphere's on the Qliphoth. Right were their names are listed. Ancient Egyptian and Sumerian gods are not Demonic entities they fall into a different classification. Lilith was demonic entity and vampire in the Sumerian world as well not a Goddess. People put up amulets to ward her and her classification of demon away.

Moses is not a historical being but a Hebrew fiction based on Bacchus. This is well known. He is symbolic of a Hebrew magician using the power of YHVH to destroy the Gentiles.
On the contrary, it is vice versa. The occult text that are in Satanism were stolen only to make Christianity seem original. YHWHV represents, for example, the Four Cardinal Elements (Fire, Water, Earth, Air). What the Jewish toxic thoughtform lacks is the Akasha which oriented downside through the pentagram it manifests wishes and powers obto the Earth. If oriented upwards, it will manifest things etherically, in the Astral Realm.

The so-called Star of David or the Sixth Pointed Star is related to the star Summerians were using for Innana in Uruk in Temples dedicated for Her.

Just look at those two images and you will see the evidence:
Image - I nana sigil, approximately 256 BC.

And this...

Image - 550 AD.

The Jewish concepts are not original at all as all the occult texts have been stolen from the occult and Satanic texts.

Qlipphotic is in strong connection with the Angelic beings, such as the 72 names of Shemphora. It is all Jewish trickery.

Related go Moses, Moses is a Bachus which is fiction but this character had the important role into making people that powers are bad. It is a psychological diversion technique. YHWH used the powers and let Moses the fictional character use the powers bad and threatening people so further people that are non Jewish would never use the powers.

It is all straight in the Book they have.

And no, Azazel isn't the fallen angel of Islam. I have read a very qualitative translation of the Qu'ran and never have I ever found that Azazel is a fallen angel. Qu'ran is the same with the Torah, filled with lies and bogus characters and enemy thoughtforms but refined and reformed for those on the East and Saudi Arabic continents.
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Celeste AikoGal wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:18 pm Azazel is sometimes defined as a "form" of Satan. They sure are different entities, but some people define him as an aspect of Satan or the same entity:

""Why do you consider Satan and Azazel to be the same entity?
First, please note that we equate Azazel with the "Satan" of the New Testament, not with "ha-satan" of the Book of Job, who does seem to be a distinct entity.

The name "Azazel" (or rather its Arabic form, "Azazil") has been used for over a thousand years by Muslims as one of their names for the Devil. And this does make sense in terms of at least some of the earlier Hebrew uses of the name.

The ritual of the scapegoat (Leviticus 16:10) makes no sense if Azazel is just another demon. If indeed the "Azazel" of the scapegoat ritual was originally believed to have been a demon at all, then surely the purpose of the ritual would have been to drive away all demons, not just one particular one. If any one demon is to be singled out, then the only demon worth singling out would have to have been the main leader of the pack. In other words, the entity whom Christians call "Satan" or "the Devil." And the parallelism within the ritual itself (one goat for Yahweh, the other goat for Azazel) suggests that Yahweh and Azazel were at one time thought to be figures of similar stature. It certainly does not suggest that Azazel is just a minor player.

It is debatable whether the "Azazel" of the scapegoat ritual was originally a demon of any kind in the first place. The original meaning of the Hebrew word "Azazel" is unknown.

However, during the several centuries immediately before the beginning of the Christian era, many Jews did see Azazel as a spirit opposed to Yahweh, though the literature is not consistent as to Azazel's rank or role. For example, in the Book of Enoch, Azazel seems to be just one member of a group of rebel angels. On the other hand, regarding Azazel, the Book of Enoch also says, "to him ascribe all sin." Note: that's all "sin," not just some of the "sins" resulting from the fallen angels' interactions with humans. So, it appears that the writer of at least one portion of the Book of Enoch thought of Azazel as the Devil.

In the Book of Enoch, Azazel is also portrayed as a teacher of forbidden knowledge. Our choice of the name "Azazel" in "Church of Azazel" reflects our commitment to encouraging our members to think for themselves and to acquire knowledge.

The Book of Enoch didn't make it into the Bible, but it apparently was regarded as scripture by many of the earliest Christians, including at least one of the New Testament writers (see Jude 1:14-15, which quotes the Book of Enoch) and some of the early Church Fathers (see the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Henoch, Book of). So, it is highly likely that the Book of Enoch was a major influence on early Christian ideas about Satan.

(See also the section on Azazel in the Theology of the Church of Azazel.)

Some theistic Satanists have had experiences with a spirit named "Azazel" whom they regard as distinct from Satan. There may well be more than one spirit who answers to the name "Azazel." Even if "Azazel" is also the name of a lesser spirit, it is a legitimate name of Satan Himself too, having been used as a name of Satan/Shaitan for many centuries."


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Enoch is also the founder of the language of Demons, Enochian. Enochan ;)
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Your argument is that Paganism is Satanism its not. Satanism is the Qliphoth and the Satanic demons of the left side of the Judeo-Christian pantheon. That's the Yezidhi religion. Azazel is a demon of the Qliphoth.
LockyMoth wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:36 pm
On the contrary, it is vice versa. The occult text that are in Satanism were stolen only to make Christianity seem original. YHWHV represents, for example, the Four Cardinal Elements (Fire, Water, Earth, Air). What the Jewish toxic thoughtform lacks is the Akasha which oriented downside through the pentagram it manifests wishes and powers obto the Earth. If oriented upwards, it will manifest things etherically, in the Astral Realm.

The so-called Star of David or the Sixth Pointed Star is related to the star Summerians were using for Innana in Uruk in Temples dedicated for Her.

Just look at those two images and you will see the evidence:
Image - I nana sigil, approximately 256 BC.

And this...

Image - 550 AD.

The Jewish concepts are not original at all as all the occult texts have been stolen from the occult and Satanic texts.

Qlipphotic is in strong connection with the Angelic beings, such as the 72 names of Shemphora. It is all Jewish trickery.

Related go Moses, Moses is a Bachus which is fiction but this character had the important role into making people that powers are bad. It is a psychological diversion technique. YHWH used the powers and let Moses the fictional character use the powers bad and threatening people so further people that are non Jewish would never use the powers.

It is all straight in the Book they have.

And no, Azazel isn't the fallen angel of Islam. I have read a very qualitative translation of the Qu'ran and never have I ever found that Azazel is a fallen angel. Qu'ran is the same with the Torah, filled with lies and bogus characters and enemy thoughtforms but refined and reformed for those on the East and Saudi Arabic continents.
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