On its own it does not have consequences or repercussions, only if the harmed innocent takes revenge or someone who cares take revenge.
So according to you there is no universal law or justice at work /behind the scene.
Just us versus us.
This wouldn't explain astrology (if you believe in it, I do for a fact), but thanks for your input
There is a genetic law of socializing among humans in the soul to want justice, this laws does not need to be written, the Justice system of a state works to enforce this laws which exists regardless of a state and a Judiciary system. If an injustice is committed to you it affects your soul and your mind, then your spiritual existence is harmed, so you need to make justice which is revenge to fix your soul problems. If injustice is enforced and perpetuated in society everyone gets sick in the soul and go mad, if people accept it by being programmed by christianity their soul gets weak and they die and can't find the path of reincarnation. Astrology only shows what is in the soul of a person, it does not take actions to make justice, if people are spiritually healthy they will take the correct actions and will try to enforce Justice, then you will see thing manifesting. In a world of christians and muslism and budist and atheist I don't know what is the extent of this effect, it could be close to zero or the genetic could still be speaking louder than the programming. If you have spiritual advancement you could commit all sorts of injustice and never end up being a target of a vengefull soul, because most souls are programmed and will never even find the path of reincarnation.
To add it further, all forms of divination will become obsolete.
Agree?
Of course you will agree, which leads me to next point. Why are you two still doing all sorts of readings for people, then?
Well it really depends on a lot of things. Why do we still do the astrology and tarot readings for people? Here are some of the main reasons.
1. Our platform has a broad audience which includes theists and atheists. We are doing the readings for the theists.
2. Whether you take these readings seriously, or you are just doing them for kicks, you have to admit it's a fun way to spend your time.
3. Its a good way of being there for people in the community and providing comfort and support.
4. It's an awesome way to blaspheme against superstitious Christian beliefs and you all know how much I love to blaspheme.
5. It gets views on YouTube, which means we can create awareness for the ministry to a larger audience (so if anything, it's useful).
6. I spent many years studying astrology, so I may as well use my skills and knowledge to make friends, meet new people and entertain
Aww how sweet Mamba
Thank you for your answer but you know it's quite hypocrite from your side (no offense)
More on the self workship could be more helpful to people, don't you think?
Your mixing all in all with no clear structure or coherence you need to make up your mind and keep a line of thinking.
For the sake of your own credibility after all
Just because you don't understand how our platform works doesn't make me a hypocrite. From the very beginning the T4S was meant to be a gathering of the minds, a place where Satanists from everywhere can get together. Yes, T4S has it's own doctrine and beliefs, but I am not going to force my views on you or try to mind control you. You can reject our doctrine and still be a member. That is why we have people from TST, CoS, JoS, Independent Satanists and even Pagans and Luciferians as members.
If you want to see hypocrisy look no further than "High Priest" Hooded Cobra from the Joy of Satan Ministries. This is not a hate post but honest criticism.
I have said this before, but I will say it again. JoS is an exclusive club where only people who adhere to JoS beliefs are allowed to be members. If you are laveyan, atheist or just someone with an original opinion guess what, you are seen as an enemy and are getting banned. This can be seen from their own rules.
Joy of Satan wrote: 1. We know Satan and his Demons are real beings. If you are LaVeyan, or feel otherwise, do not push your beliefs here.
2. People who sympathise with and/or support the enemies of Satan- [The Jews, Christians and Muslims]- WILL BE BANNED!
3. Blasphemy against Satan and/or his Demons will not be tolerated!
4. If you believe Satan and his Demons are evil, this is not the group for you, find another.
5. Do not try to push Wiccan or other non-Satanic creeds here.
6. Do not try to promote individuals, groups or organizations who bash the Joy of Satan. Your posts will be deleted and you will be banned.
7. Anyone who posts advocating anything illegal will be banned.
8. Please be polite- flaming will not be tolerated.
9. No personally identifiable information should be used on your account [Real name, pictures etc]. We take your privacy seriously, you should too.
10. Posters have the sole responsibility for their posts, and not the forums, moderators, or anyone else.
Also I proved this by creating an account on the JoS forum and making a post. I was immediately banned.
The T4S is NOT an echo chamber or a cult, and we are not going to tell people what to believe or think.
Re: Karma
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:23 am
by HPBlackMamba
AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:16 am
Look at Don for instance. He is changing his beliefs every other week. He could be the best person in the world but we will never know as he behaves weird and this leads to suspicion and paranoia.
On the other hand, Cobra is a sneaky top con man but because he keeps a line of thinking, he gets more 'followers'.
Is that why the JoS membership has been steadily declining for 2 years now since Maxine left?
Well it really depends on a lot of things. Why do we still do the astrology and tarot readings for people? Here are some of the main reasons.
1. Our platform has a broad audience which includes theists and atheists. We are doing the readings for the theists.
2. Whether you take these readings seriously, or you are just doing them for kicks, you have to admit it's a fun way to spend your time.
3. Its a good way of being there for people in the community and providing comfort and support.
4. It's an awesome way to blaspheme against superstitious Christian beliefs and you all know how much I love to blaspheme.
5. It gets views on YouTube, which means we can create awareness for the ministry to a larger audience (so if anything, it's useful).
6. I spent many years studying astrology, so I may as well use my skills and knowledge to make friends, meet new people and entertain
Aww how sweet Mamba
Thank you for your answer but you know it's quite hypocrite from your side (no offense)
More on the self workship could be more helpful to people, don't you think?
Your mixing all in all with no clear structure or coherence you need to make up your mind and keep a line of thinking.
For the sake of your own credibility after all
Just because you don't understand how our platform works doesn't make me a hypocrite. From the very beginning the T4S was meant to be a gathering of the minds, a place where Satanists from everywhere can get together. Yes, T4S has it's own doctrine and beliefs, but I am not going to force my views on you or try to mind control you. You can reject our doctrine and still be a member. That is why we have people from TST, CoS, JoS, Independent Satanists and even Pagans and Luciferians as members.
If you want to see hypocrisy look no further than "High Priest" Hooded Cobra from the Joy of Satan Ministries. This is not a hate post but honest criticism.
I have said this before, but I will say it again. JoS is an exclusive club where only people who adhere to JoS beliefs are allowed to be members. If you are laveyan, atheist or just someone with an original opinion guess what, you are seen as an enemy and are getting banned. This can be seen from their own rules.
Joy of Satan wrote: 1. We know Satan and his Demons are real beings. If you are LaVeyan, or feel otherwise, do not push your beliefs here.
2. People who sympathise with and/or support the enemies of Satan- [The Jews, Christians and Muslims]- WILL BE BANNED!
3. Blasphemy against Satan and/or his Demons will not be tolerated!
4. If you believe Satan and his Demons are evil, this is not the group for you, find another.
5. Do not try to push Wiccan or other non-Satanic creeds here.
6. Do not try to promote individuals, groups or organizations who bash the Joy of Satan. Your posts will be deleted and you will be banned.
7. Anyone who posts advocating anything illegal will be banned.
8. Please be polite- flaming will not be tolerated.
9. No personally identifiable information should be used on your account [Real name, pictures etc]. We take your privacy seriously, you should too.
10. Posters have the sole responsibility for their posts, and not the forums, moderators, or anyone else.
Also I proved this by creating an account on the JoS forum and making a post. I was immediately banned.
The T4S is NOT an echo chamber or a cult, and we are not going to tell people what to believe or think.
You dont need to be buthurt about it Mamba. Please spare me the 'we don't tell you what to think blah blah blah bullshit poem
I told you simply that you have cracks in your own narrative and this is all. Take criticism positively or you will never grow past this degree (if you are well intended).
You are hypocrite just as Cobra but different types and degree what do you expect now some sort of comparation or stuff. Just because he's worse it doesn't make you (or Don) any better.
Re: Karma
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:37 am
by HPBlackMamba
AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:29 am
You dont need to be buthurt about it Mamba. Please spare me the 'we don't tell you what to think blah blah blah bullshit poem
I told you simply that you have cracks in your own narrative and this is all. Take criticism positively or you will never grow past this degree (if you are well intended).
You are hypocrite just as Cobra but different types and degree what do you expect now some sort of comparation or stuff. Just because he's worse it doesn't make you (or Don) any better.
You think I am butthurt? I was just giving you facts. No person on planet earth is perfect, and I certainly am not trying to sell anyone the idea that I am. So what are these "cracks in my narrative"? The fact That I don't push my beliefs on to others, or use the T4S platform to bully people into believing the same as me? Let's be honest here.
The only person who is "butthurt" is is Hooded Cobra, because we showed people that a free speech forum is actually possible.That is why you are not even allowed to mention the T4S on their forum, and he keeps sending people over here to spam JoS links... Look, what is the guy hiding? Why won't he just man up an face me?
Re: Karma
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:40 am
by HPBlackMamba
I also want to add that I am actually addressing your criticisms instead of censoring you like HoodedCobra at the Joy of Satan does. Which is actually a big thing.
AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:29 am
You dont need to be buthurt about it Mamba. Please spare me the 'we don't tell you what to think blah blah blah bullshit poem
I told you simply that you have cracks in your own narrative and this is all. Take criticism positively or you will never grow past this degree (if you are well intended).
You are hypocrite just as Cobra but different types and degree what do you expect now some sort of comparation or stuff. Just because he's worse it doesn't make you (or Don) any better.
You think I am butthurt? I was just giving you facts. No person on planet earth is perfect, and I certainly am not trying to sell anyone the idea that I am. So what are these "cracks in my narrative"? The fact That I don't push my beliefs on to others, or use the T4S platform to bully people into believing the same as me? Let's be honest here.
The only person who is "butthurt" is is Hooded Cobra, because we showed people that a free speech forum is actually possible.That is why you are not even allowed to mention the T4S on their forum, and he keeps sending people over here to spam JoS links... Look, what is the guy hiding? Why won't he just man up an face me?
You are.such a funny person, I love your diversions and stuff...
take my advice: Stop being obsessed with Cobra - he is not even an interesting person, you definitely can better than that. I believe in you Mamba, you can do it!
Re: Karma
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:24 pm
by AnonPoster
HPBlackMamba wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:40 am
I also want to add that I am actually addressing your criticisms instead of censoring you like HoodedCobra at the Joy of Satan does. Which is actually a big thing.
I like farts!!! I love ❤ putting my head down near the booty and sniffing those farts. I love it when that smell is in my face. It's even better when a little poopie comes out with the fart then I can lay there and sniff play with or even eat that too. Secretly of course. I do believe farts are Spiritual and connect you to someone.
AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:29 am
You dont need to be buthurt about it Mamba. Please spare me the 'we don't tell you what to think blah blah blah bullshit poem
I told you simply that you have cracks in your own narrative and this is all. Take criticism positively or you will never grow past this degree (if you are well intended).
You are hypocrite just as Cobra but different types and degree what do you expect now some sort of comparation or stuff. Just because he's worse it doesn't make you (or Don) any better.
You think I am butthurt? I was just giving you facts. No person on planet earth is perfect, and I certainly am not trying to sell anyone the idea that I am. So what are these "cracks in my narrative"? The fact That I don't push my beliefs on to others, or use the T4S platform to bully people into believing the same as me? Let's be honest here.
The only person who is "butthurt" is is Hooded Cobra, because we showed people that a free speech forum is actually possible.That is why you are not even allowed to mention the T4S on their forum, and he keeps sending people over here to spam JoS links... Look, what is the guy hiding? Why won't he just man up an face me?
You are.such a funny person, I love your diversions and stuff...
take my advice: Stop being obsessed with Cobra - he is not even an interesting person, you definitely can better than that. I believe in you Mamba, you can do it!
And relax man generally relax...
I am not saying you shouldn't call out Cobra or mention his bullshit however you tend to compare yourself with him ALL THE TIME In some sort of competition idk and this becomes tiring and against any so called individuality you claim to promote. Be unique/ be your own person. This is all.
Re: Karma
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:03 pm
by HPBlackMamba
You are.such a funny person, I love your diversions and stuff...
take my advice: Stop being obsessed with Cobra - he is not even an interesting person, you definitely can better than that. I believe in you Mamba, you can do it!
Actually that is good advice. I understand that there are people here who are former JoSers, and they may want to get some things off their chest. As for me I really just want to focus on my own advancement and Satanism. This place wasn't created to throw hate at another ministry. What I really want to see is people giving testimonials, talking about their satanic journey or asking questions about the occult or spirituality.
