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There was a lot of Theosophical influence in the Thule and Vril Society. I would suspect White Mage that they would have been using the information in Theosophy from the east this would include pranayama and mantra's, banda practice and such. The statements of Eckart of Hitler reveals they where using Kundalini techniques. Haushofer, might have had training in esoteric systems in the east like Varja which deals with Kundalini energies. Haushofer was one of the founders of the Thule Society along with von Sebottendorf, having read one of the books by von Sebottendorf he was instructing the members of the Thule Society in the use of mantra's based on the runes and vowels. This includes the Sufi, IAO vowels and how to use them. He also shows mundra's as well. And general alchemical knowledge relating to the use of the vowel mantra's.

White Mage, the other thing that came in was Christianity was the problem within Germany and some of the members of the Thule and inner circle of the Party the military leadership and such. This allowed the numerous curses in the Hebrew energy form to manifest which are for totality destroying anyone or nation that opposes the Jews and their reptilian gods. We could call the manifestation of this curse World War Two.


The situation is what has to be done is the clearing of the ground the rune rituals, rituals for awakening our people to truth, rituals for protecting our people and rituals to banish Christianity and dissipate the Hebrew energy form. Along with internal spiritual practices to evolve oneself. Christianity is the big magical weapon of the enemy until its gone there is going to be problems.

Don Danko, what you've said is actually quite similar to my views on the subject. It's definitely not a black or white issue.

Definitely don't think Hitler was necessary some super occult master, but rather he had some training and initiation from the individuals you've already mentioned. If anything, I see him as a low-to-mid level adept with some past-life karma or protection from the gods. Not just surviving dozens of assassination attempts when he was a politician, but even the numerous instances of him surviving in WW1. I remember reading a story about how he sat down to eat in a trench, and he got a really bad feeling, and just left with his dog. A few seconds later, a shell hit that spot, killing everyone.

I also remember there was a group of Kabbalistic Rabbis in WW2 who tried to throw a death curse on Hitler. When the senior rabbi went to sleep, he recounted how he had the most terrifying dream of his life, in which a large serpent mocked the Rabbi, telling him that they would never be able to hurt Hitler no matter what they tried. There was another story of how British Intelligence worked directly with Rabbis, who would be flown around in bomber planes around key battle lines, slitting the throats of dozens of chickens they brought with them. After the flights, the crews of these carcass strewn and blood stained planes would share stories about the absurdity of what happened, wondering why the British intelligence were working with these Rabbis. There definitely was an occult war underneath all of this, whether the top intelligence officials truly understood what they were doing or not. I'm planning a documentary around these stories as well.

However, I definitely think its wrong to go worshipping Hitler as if he was some god rather than a human being. People also need to remember he was a politician first, which means having to unite people and make compromises. That includes working with Christians in his party and government. Even if he was anti-Christian at heart (which I think he was based on diary entries of his closest confidants), you can't really go expressing that in public. He has to play the part, at least publicly. He was far from a perfect person.

The only reason why I do talk about Hitler is that it's a good example to people why this kind of esoteric occult knowledge is important. If just one man, with limited training, did what he did, imagine what you could do as well - that line of logic. But I agree with you Don that the most important thing is to focus on the source, the Aryan gods, the truth about christianity as a black magic weapon to enslave the gentiles, and the importance of genuine occult practices as a way to win back our world.

The problem is most people aren't even on that level. As you already know, most people still cling to christianity, or at least incorporate it into whatever they believe. That's a good tie in to Ruhe. He seems like a nice fellow and I don't have a problem with him personally, but I definitely don't agree with this christianized buddhism that he follows. He had this other fellow on recently, some christianized-pagan, esoteric hitlerist priest, on his show, and they talk about praying to Hitler and that kind of stuff. But they don't seem interested in doing what the original Thule and Vril societies were doing.

In my old correspondence with Loki, I remember he told me that he emailed Ruhe your articles on Primordial Buddhism and how Theraveda buddhism isn't legit in comparison to the original Bon Po traditions. Ruhe supposedly got angry and defensive. There's no point in supporting NS-values or Hitler, or even fighting against the NWO (if you can call it that) if you are a Christian - what's truly important is that Vril/Thule/aryan occult core that made NS Germany possible in the first place. If you have that part in place, someone's politics really don't matter that much in my eyes. Whether they are NS or believe in an early American Republic style of government, getting the spiritual core in place first really is all that matters. Whatever future manifestation of politics is always going to be a fresh reinterpretation of an older idea anyway.

Don Danko, did your other article get deleted?

I remember I recently read the "Esoteric Practices of the Vril Society" and wanted to reply, but now it seems like its gone...

White Mage wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:43 pm I remember reading a story about how he sat down to eat in a trench, and he got a really bad feeling, and just left with his dog. A few seconds later, a shell hit that spot, killing everyone.

I watched a movie with a ridiculous version in which he went outside to beat the dog lol
The absurd slander comes from rabbi frustration and it get hilarious.


i want to watch the documentary if you make it. I love the story of Hitler

"Don Danko, did your other article get deleted?

I remember I recently read the "Esoteric Practices of the Vril Society" and wanted to reply, but now it seems like its gone... "

White Mage, Don himself deleted it. I don't know why. The T4S won't delete peoples writings, we're a free speech platform. Only if its spam or illegal content.

The National Socialist Party in the inner circle came out of the Teutonic movement:

"It was not until the first years of the twentieth century that a magical runic revival began, but this revival had manifold roots and was itself many faceted. The nineteenth century also saw the emergence of spiritualism and occultism in popular culture. The most influential branch of this phenomenon was Theosophy, as formulated by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky and promoted through the Theosophical Society. Concurrent with this new interest in the occult was a strong revival of Germanicism , which also might be called Neo-Romanticism. This was coupled with the growth of political Pan-Germanicism following the unification of the German Empire in 1871.

All of these factors began to work together with the latest theories concerning mythology, religion, science [especially Darwinism] and philosophy. From this mighty mix emerged the heterogeneous Deutsch Bewegung [Teutonic Movement]. In every aspect the adherents of this movement had a practical bent. They were not out to philosophize from ivory towers, but rather it was their intention to alter the world in which they lived. They wanted to bring society back to its traditional [pre-Christian] roots at least as they saw them. Even those who formally wished to think of themselves as "Christians" rejected most of what had traditionally been thought of as the Christian heritage and replaced it with Germanic mythology and folk tales. This branch of the movement generally went under the banner of the Deutsch-Christen [Teutonic Christians]. But other, perhaps more honest members of the social revolution rejected Christian tradition and again took up the standard of the All-Father."[1]

Theosophy was the major influence in this movement even with one of the major leaders Von List:

"In German speaking countries throughout these years the ideology expressed by Theosophy was quite influential and although List's own relationship to the Theosophical Society itself is somewhat vague, he does seem to have been influenced tin the direction of its philosophy and cosmology."[2]

Interesting enough in another book its stated the member of this movement within the Vril Society and Thule Society where creating what they called "Aryan Theosophy"[2 out of this former movement and dropping the Judaic elements. From all the writings of the inner doctrine of the party its obvious they where all on the spectrum mentioned within the Teutonic Movement from Teutonic Pagan to Teutonic Christian. Wieland's work being totality on the Teutonic Christian side which looks like Christian Identity I would include Chamberlin on this as well. And people like Himmler being on the Teutonic Pagan side I also believe Hitler was as well. This is where the Christian problem took over from within the movement and opened the door. However. Interesting enough one of the books found in Hitler's library after the war was an Armanen book personally signed to Hitler from Von List himself. And Von List was the major leader of within this movement."

From what is stated in the books on the subject I am studying the Vril Society was made up of German's who wanted to remove Christianity totality and replace it with the primordial Traditional of the Indo-Aryan, Germanic world. Hitler was a member of the Vril Society with Himmler and so was Hess. And this society was in direct contact with our Gods. I also believe the Vril mediums from looking at them and how they wore their hair also came out of the Teutonic movement. The Vril Society was the combination of the Pagan Teutonic movements different groups into one order. The book by Peter Moon, 'The Black Sun' states that Rudolf Steiner might have been a member of the Thule Society in the early days. This would explain why he went public and started attacking the Thule Society it must have been a failing out over ideology. Steiner was a very influential and well connected esoteric leader in Germany and Austria in those days so its not a surprise if he was in the movement. He was a major Theosophist.

[1][2] Runelore The Magic, History , and Hidden Codes Of The Runes, by Edred Thorsson

White Mage wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:43 pm Don Danko, what you've said is actually quite similar to my views on the subject. It's definitely not a black or white issue.

Definitely don't think Hitler was necessary some super occult master, but rather he had some training and initiation from the individuals you've already mentioned. If anything, I see him as a low-to-mid level adept with some past-life karma or protection from the gods. Not just surviving dozens of assassination attempts when he was a politician, but even the numerous instances of him surviving in WW1. I remember reading a story about how he sat down to eat in a trench, and he got a really bad feeling, and just left with his dog. A few seconds later, a shell hit that spot, killing everyone.

I also remember there was a group of Kabbalistic Rabbis in WW2 who tried to throw a death curse on Hitler. When the senior rabbi went to sleep, he recounted how he had the most terrifying dream of his life, in which a large serpent mocked the Rabbi, telling him that they would never be able to hurt Hitler no matter what they tried. There was another story of how British Intelligence worked directly with Rabbis, who would be flown around in bomber planes around key battle lines, slitting the throats of dozens of chickens they brought with them. After the flights, the crews of these carcass strewn and blood stained planes would share stories about the absurdity of what happened, wondering why the British intelligence were working with these Rabbis. There definitely was an occult war underneath all of this, whether the top intelligence officials truly understood what they were doing or not. I'm planning a documentary around these stories as well.

However, I definitely think its wrong to go worshipping Hitler as if he was some god rather than a human being. People also need to remember he was a politician first, which means having to unite people and make compromises. That includes working with Christians in his party and government. Even if he was anti-Christian at heart (which I think he was based on diary entries of his closest confidants), you can't really go expressing that in public. He has to play the part, at least publicly. He was far from a perfect person.

The only reason why I do talk about Hitler is that it's a good example to people why this kind of esoteric occult knowledge is important. If just one man, with limited training, did what he did, imagine what you could do as well - that line of logic. But I agree with you Don that the most important thing is to focus on the source, the Aryan gods, the truth about christianity as a black magic weapon to enslave the gentiles, and the importance of genuine occult practices as a way to win back our world.

The problem is most people aren't even on that level. As you already know, most people still cling to christianity, or at least incorporate it into whatever they believe. That's a good tie in to Ruhe. He seems like a nice fellow and I don't have a problem with him personally, but I definitely don't agree with this christianized buddhism that he follows. He had this other fellow on recently, some christianized-pagan, esoteric hitlerist priest, on his show, and they talk about praying to Hitler and that kind of stuff. But they don't seem interested in doing what the original Thule and Vril societies were doing.

In my old correspondence with Loki, I remember he told me that he emailed Ruhe your articles on Primordial Buddhism and how Theraveda buddhism isn't legit in comparison to the original Bon Po traditions. Ruhe supposedly got angry and defensive. There's no point in supporting NS-values or Hitler, or even fighting against the NWO (if you can call it that) if you are a Christian - what's truly important is that Vril/Thule/aryan occult core that made NS Germany possible in the first place. If you have that part in place, someone's politics really don't matter that much in my eyes. Whether they are NS or believe in an early American Republic style of government, getting the spiritual core in place first really is all that matters. Whatever future manifestation of politics is always going to be a fresh reinterpretation of an older idea anyway.

I deleted it because with further research with new texts on the subject I founded out the image was from the Teutonic movement not specially the Vril Society, itself. So out of historical authenticity I deleted the article. However the image of Ostara is from the Teutonic movement and Ostara was the patron Goddess of the Vril Society they where in contact with and I note her hair and the hair of the female aspect of the Baphomet is how the Vril Mediums wore their hair. The image is also covered with the Odal rune as well. Very important this is also a protection rune for the race as well as awakening rune. So I do believe the connection is true however.

In the ancient pre-Christian world, Odin spoke a magical language know only to the initiates the description of this is the same as the mantra's in the east. Its not a talking language its a magical formula. The descriptions of this is identical to the east of the Aryan Rishi's channeled the Sanskrit language, mantra's and Veda's from their Siddhie powers of their ascended state. Odin's own magicians where called Sidhmen[1]. Or Siddhie Men. Siddha's in the east or ascended Aryan masters. Those with the Dragon body and Odin is a serpent god.

Also the Swastika is given the most important symbol in the ancient pre-Christian world, Von List, wrote its the equal of the Christian cross in importance for the Indo-Aryans pagans. The swastika in esoteric diagrams is the symbol of the mantra RAM and this Swastika is placed on the heart chakra everywhere in the east. The Swastika is the heart chakra symbol the union of the male and female at the third point and how the Vril circulates from here. The Swastika is important including in the Vajra Buddhism which is from Sivaism and goes back to Odin in Europe who is called Budha and Siva was called Buddha and still in Sri Lanka the major center of Sivaism, Buddha is called Woden. These are all names for Mercury the Aryan serpent god. As mentioned RAM is the esoteric fifth rune. The Swastika is showing the rotation of Chi-fire thought the heart and the entire being to purify them and allow the serpent to ascend. As this also makes the microcosm orbit. Chi-fire or Agni is the key in the east to Kundalini Yoga. Buddha is a title of the ascended master and so is Woden its stated that Wooden in the current English comes from being made of Wood or Wod this light body the Gnostic's stated was made of Ather-fire, which is Wod. Shiva is Dionysus-Lucifer in the west and so Lucifer is actually the god Odin, Budha of Europe.

Its mentioned in the Shiva texts that the worship of Shiva is the inner Chi-fire that is why. Rati is a title of Odin in his form that allows the serpent to ascend in the mystic lore of the North. Rati, Rad, Reda the fifth rune and he rides thought the worlds on his eight legged horse which flies in the air. The eight is the heart chakra and the riding is the name of the fifth rune or which is a title of RAM.

Shiva is a title of the Vedic god, Rudra who's mantra is RAM and Rudra is called Rudra Chakrin which is the title of the King of Shambalha [Valhalla] this however is also a title of the heart chakra in the east and is given the symbol of the heart chakra as the RAM placed here circulates the wheel of Chi-fire. Then we have Osiris who is also Ptah and Osiris is called Asir which is also Aseir the name of Odin. And Osiris is called Ki-RAM. Which means fire chi. This is the meaning of Odin sacrificing himself to himself in the ancient Aryan world the sacrifice was the yagna the fire ritual and the god of this is Agni who's mantra is Ram. Agni is the god Ing in the runes and Ing was the name of the sacred fire. Ingelnook is still the name of the fire place in old names in England and there was found Ing runes carved on the mantle of old fire places in Europe. It was the fire sacrifice of the using the Chi-fire which allows the transformation of the person into the Woden or Dragon body.

The god Agnus Dei in pagan Rome is Agni Devi in the east who's mantra is RAM. And his symbol is the White Ram some times shown as the lamb but still linked to the Ram of Aries the spring. Its probably not a mistake this symbol is called RAM because in the ancient world the animal was the hieroglyph of the mantra which is the power of Chi-fire, Agni.

[1]Runelore The Magic, History , and Hidden Codes Of The Runes, by Edred Thorsson

White Mage wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:55 pm Don Danko, did your other article get deleted?

I remember I recently read the "Esoteric Practices of the Vril Society" and wanted to reply, but now it seems like its gone...

The Rabbinical adepts where doing occultism in their Communist revolution as well:

This brings this statement into light:
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"The Yevreyskaya Tribuna a Russian Jewish newspaper reported in August 24th, 1922 that Lenin had asked the rabbis if they were satisfied with the particularly cruel executions."[1]

Why is Lenin consulting with Jewish rabbi's as to the methods of the Cheka executions?

The methods the Jewish Cheka used to murder the Gentiles with were Jewish ritualistic murders that that were following the stated methods in the Jewish Torah to murder Gentiles, this includes burning Gentiles alive, cutting Gentiles up with saws, axes and such tools and even forcing Gentiles to eat their own flesh as commanded in Isaiah, 49:26. The entire methods the Cheka used all are found within the Jewish Torah. And was being instructed to be carried out as such by the rabbi's leading their fellow Jews in the Cheka. This is due to the fact these methods connect into the vortex of occult energy of the Torah which is a Jewish grimoire and thus designed to give more power to the Jewish Kabbalistic rituals to manifest the Jewish Communist world government. Some of the victims of the Cheka even had Kabbalistic magical symbols burned into them before being tortured to death by the rabbi's in political uniforms in their Kabbalistic murder rituals in the Cheka's cellars. This is also why such insane methods of executing political prisoners were used it was designed to simply torture them to death to generate as much energy for the ritual to then send the power to the target. Its also known the Jews committed ritual murders of Gentile children in the Russian Empire for political power as the Jews admitted in the case of the Gentile child, Andrei Iushchinskii, the rabbi Mendel Beilis and other Jews arrested told the authorities upon questing the ritual murder of Andrei was done as a ritual to bring down the Czar and bring about the Communist revolution.


The Jews used the same methods in Bavaria as well. The mass executions lead by rabbi's in political uniforms as mass human sacrifices to raise and direct the psychic occult power to manifest their victory. This is why Communism has barley even been actually defeated because its a Jewish occult program. And the adversaries of such are helpless against the level of psychic occult power and knowledge the Jews are using. No matter how much physical advantage the adversaries of Communism have they always just seem to lose because they are spiritually defenseless. Even super powers as America have been defeated by Communist forces.

White Mage wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:43 pm Don Danko, what you've said is actually quite similar to my views on the subject. It's definitely not a black or white issue.

Definitely don't think Hitler was necessary some super occult master, but rather he had some training and initiation from the individuals you've already mentioned. If anything, I see him as a low-to-mid level adept with some past-life karma or protection from the gods. Not just surviving dozens of assassination attempts when he was a politician, but even the numerous instances of him surviving in WW1. I remember reading a story about how he sat down to eat in a trench, and he got a really bad feeling, and just left with his dog. A few seconds later, a shell hit that spot, killing everyone.

I also remember there was a group of Kabbalistic Rabbis in WW2 who tried to throw a death curse on Hitler. When the senior rabbi went to sleep, he recounted how he had the most terrifying dream of his life, in which a large serpent mocked the Rabbi, telling him that they would never be able to hurt Hitler no matter what they tried. There was another story of how British Intelligence worked directly with Rabbis, who would be flown around in bomber planes around key battle lines, slitting the throats of dozens of chickens they brought with them. After the flights, the crews of these carcass strewn and blood stained planes would share stories about the absurdity of what happened, wondering why the British intelligence were working with these Rabbis. There definitely was an occult war underneath all of this, whether the top intelligence officials truly understood what they were doing or not. I'm planning a documentary around these stories as well.

However, I definitely think its wrong to go worshipping Hitler as if he was some god rather than a human being. People also need to remember he was a politician first, which means having to unite people and make compromises. That includes working with Christians in his party and government. Even if he was anti-Christian at heart (which I think he was based on diary entries of his closest confidants), you can't really go expressing that in public. He has to play the part, at least publicly. He was far from a perfect person.

The only reason why I do talk about Hitler is that it's a good example to people why this kind of esoteric occult knowledge is important. If just one man, with limited training, did what he did, imagine what you could do as well - that line of logic. But I agree with you Don that the most important thing is to focus on the source, the Aryan gods, the truth about christianity as a black magic weapon to enslave the gentiles, and the importance of genuine occult practices as a way to win back our world.

The problem is most people aren't even on that level. As you already know, most people still cling to christianity, or at least incorporate it into whatever they believe. That's a good tie in to Ruhe. He seems like a nice fellow and I don't have a problem with him personally, but I definitely don't agree with this christianized buddhism that he follows. He had this other fellow on recently, some christianized-pagan, esoteric hitlerist priest, on his show, and they talk about praying to Hitler and that kind of stuff. But they don't seem interested in doing what the original Thule and Vril societies were doing.

In my old correspondence with Loki, I remember he told me that he emailed Ruhe your articles on Primordial Buddhism and how Theraveda buddhism isn't legit in comparison to the original Bon Po traditions. Ruhe supposedly got angry and defensive. There's no point in supporting NS-values or Hitler, or even fighting against the NWO (if you can call it that) if you are a Christian - what's truly important is that Vril/Thule/aryan occult core that made NS Germany possible in the first place. If you have that part in place, someone's politics really don't matter that much in my eyes. Whether they are NS or believe in an early American Republic style of government, getting the spiritual core in place first really is all that matters. Whatever future manifestation of politics is always going to be a fresh reinterpretation of an older idea anyway.

It does seem I was probably off about Hitler, however I had to go through a lot of material and came to understood the Esoteric Hitlerism that Maxine wanted me to promote was nonsense. I would say Hitler was some kind of occultist and was working within his own nation in the time and place for that time. And the German occultists of the Vril Society where in contact with our Gods had managed to create a break away civilization which is why it was attacked from the start so violently.

However they made mistakes due to the situation they where in. However that was then and we are here now and we can win in the now. I think its the best idea to continue on in our time in with developing this further to its full ability with spiritual practices, Aryan theosophy, rituals and study of everything including esoteric and moving this foreword in the now. But that means like the esoteric Buddhist's state if you see Buddha on the road.... Same with Adolf Hitler. That allows us to be free on being stuck in the Hitler fandom where we hang out with Wayne Newton and Ruhe and worship Buddha Hitler.... Hitler would not have wanted that from his own statements. He would have wanted his race to advance past him and all this and move on with something new. With respects to the past we move onto the now and future of something better.

What you stated in your esoteric documentary we need to find the wisdom of the green man [ who is the Aryan god Lucifer] and we need to build our own Jedi order of Aryan mystic's real spiritually practicing adepts who are excellent men and women willing to devote their life to our people and spiritual evolution of our people and world. We can do this now and here.

White Mage wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:43 pm Don Danko, what you've said is actually quite similar to my views on the subject. It's definitely not a black or white issue.

Definitely don't think Hitler was necessary some super occult master, but rather he had some training and initiation from the individuals you've already mentioned. If anything, I see him as a low-to-mid level adept with some past-life karma or protection from the gods. Not just surviving dozens of assassination attempts when he was a politician, but even the numerous instances of him surviving in WW1. I remember reading a story about how he sat down to eat in a trench, and he got a really bad feeling, and just left with his dog. A few seconds later, a shell hit that spot, killing everyone.

I also remember there was a group of Kabbalistic Rabbis in WW2 who tried to throw a death curse on Hitler. When the senior rabbi went to sleep, he recounted how he had the most terrifying dream of his life, in which a large serpent mocked the Rabbi, telling him that they would never be able to hurt Hitler no matter what they tried. There was another story of how British Intelligence worked directly with Rabbis, who would be flown around in bomber planes around key battle lines, slitting the throats of dozens of chickens they brought with them. After the flights, the crews of these carcass strewn and blood stained planes would share stories about the absurdity of what happened, wondering why the British intelligence were working with these Rabbis. There definitely was an occult war underneath all of this, whether the top intelligence officials truly understood what they were doing or not. I'm planning a documentary around these stories as well.

However, I definitely think its wrong to go worshipping Hitler as if he was some god rather than a human being. People also need to remember he was a politician first, which means having to unite people and make compromises. That includes working with Christians in his party and government. Even if he was anti-Christian at heart (which I think he was based on diary entries of his closest confidants), you can't really go expressing that in public. He has to play the part, at least publicly. He was far from a perfect person.

The only reason why I do talk about Hitler is that it's a good example to people why this kind of esoteric occult knowledge is important. If just one man, with limited training, did what he did, imagine what you could do as well - that line of logic. But I agree with you Don that the most important thing is to focus on the source, the Aryan gods, the truth about christianity as a black magic weapon to enslave the gentiles, and the importance of genuine occult practices as a way to win back our world.

The problem is most people aren't even on that level. As you already know, most people still cling to christianity, or at least incorporate it into whatever they believe. That's a good tie in to Ruhe. He seems like a nice fellow and I don't have a problem with him personally, but I definitely don't agree with this christianized buddhism that he follows. He had this other fellow on recently, some christianized-pagan, esoteric hitlerist priest, on his show, and they talk about praying to Hitler and that kind of stuff. But they don't seem interested in doing what the original Thule and Vril societies were doing.

In my old correspondence with Loki, I remember he told me that he emailed Ruhe your articles on Primordial Buddhism and how Theraveda buddhism isn't legit in comparison to the original Bon Po traditions. Ruhe supposedly got angry and defensive. There's no point in supporting NS-values or Hitler, or even fighting against the NWO (if you can call it that) if you are a Christian - what's truly important is that Vril/Thule/aryan occult core that made NS Germany possible in the first place. If you have that part in place, someone's politics really don't matter that much in my eyes. Whether they are NS or believe in an early American Republic style of government, getting the spiritual core in place first really is all that matters. Whatever future manifestation of politics is always going to be a fresh reinterpretation of an older idea anyway.