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Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 3:45 pm
by Agni
Blind worshipping only leads to disaster. You are free to believe what you want, but dont cry like a bitch when it turns out to be not what you thought it is. You guys just have proven to others and yourselves that you are still slaves. Slaves to your rigid systems, rigid patterns, rigid thoughts.

Life is happening right now. Whether you like it or not.

The fact that some gods, including the Goetia ones, are suddenly going crazy for a while is proof enough that they are humans as well. They are very advanced, but still humans. If you can't accept that this is what it is, then you are about to enter a state of shock. Like a tower struck by lightning you are falling from grace when confronted with the truth. I am not right nor wrong. I am only stating facts you already know but refuse to accept.


Fighting me or others over a simple fact only shows how attached you are to your beliefs and feelings. Wars have been fought for less.

There are many things we dont know but fighting what is right now will only lead to suffering, of us and others.

Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 3:49 pm
by AnonPoster
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 3:45 pm Blind worshipping only leads to disaster. You are free to believe what you want, but dont cry like a bitch when it turns out to be not what you thought it is. You guys just have proven to others and yourselves that you are still slaves. Slaves to your rigid systems, rigid patterns, rigid thoughts.

Life is happening right now. Whether you like it or not.

The fact that some gods, including the Goetia ones, are suddenly going crazy for a while is proof enough that they are humans as well. They are very advanced, but still humans. If you can't accept that this is what it is, then you are about to enter in a state of shock. Like a tower struck by lightning you are falling from grace when confronted with the truth. I am not right nor wrong. I am only stating facts you already know but refuse to accept.


Fighting me or others over a simple fact only shows how attached you are to your beliefs and feelings. Wars have been fought for less.

There are many things we dont know but fighting what is right now will only lead to suffering, of us and others.


We are crying like bitches because some goetia demons are 'going crazy'.


Hahahahah ajhahahahahaha

May Satan forgive me for today like really I mean you too guys... it's been hilarious

Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:07 pm
by Snakeway
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 3:45 pm The fact that some gods, including the Goetia ones, are suddenly going crazy for a while is proof enough that they are humans as well.
Is this a fact? what exactly are they doing that they ar ''going crazy''?

Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:14 pm
by AnonPoster
Owenavo wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:00 pm I don’t really get offended if someone questions my beliefs. I don’t cry easily.
I am not offended
I am not crying

There is noone questioning no one just people sharing personal experiences

I don't mock varun & Agni. I simply laugh I have a funny mood. I respect differences of opinion. Now I won't be writing an essay contradicting them or something.

Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:18 pm
by Agni
Snakeway wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:07 pm
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 3:45 pm The fact that some gods, including the Goetia ones, are suddenly going crazy for a while is proof enough that they are humans as well.
Is this a fact? what exactly are they doing that they ar ''going crazy''?
You are free to look yourself. This is the only way to prove a fact.

Varun, I, and others can talk all day. It only becomes a fact if you experience it yourself.

Even Don had something going on for a while. He was indeed pointing at some thoughtforms that try to portray Satan. This probably came as a shock to him and he started to believe that the gods are not real or that they are evil. He got to a point and stayed there. Maybe he even got attacked by those thoughtforms.

But here is the issue, are you willing to experience, to see, to sense? Not saying you in particular. But some prefer to stick to what they have learned so far. Then they say no to any change.

Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:22 pm
by AnonPoster
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:18 pm
Snakeway wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:07 pm
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 3:45 pm The fact that some gods, including the Goetia ones, are suddenly going crazy for a while is proof enough that they are humans as well.
Is this a fact? what exactly are they doing that they ar ''going crazy''?
You are free to look yourself. This is the only way to prove a fact.

Varun, I, and others can talk all day. It only becomes a fact if you experience it yourself.

Even Don had something going on for a while. He was indeed pointing at some thoughtforms that try to portray Satan. This probably came as a shock to him and he started to believe that the gods are not real or that they are evil. He got to a point and stayed there. Maybe he even got attacked by those thoughtforms.

But here is the issue, are you willing to experience, to see, to sense? Not saying you in particular. But some prefer to stick to what they have learned so far. Then they say no to any change.

I don't know guys, I encourage you to explore and be brave, I am better left without any opinion for the time being. I like my middle zone here for now

Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:23 pm
by BirdofFreedom
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:18 pm
Snakeway wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:07 pm
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 3:45 pm The fact that some gods, including the Goetia ones, are suddenly going crazy for a while is proof enough that they are humans as well.
Is this a fact? what exactly are they doing that they ar ''going crazy''?
You are free to look yourself. This is the only way to prove a fact.

Varun, I, and others can talk all day. It only becomes a fact if you experience it yourself.

Even Don had something going on for a while. He was indeed pointing at some thoughtforms that try to portray Satan. This probably came as a shock to him and he started to believe that the gods are not real or that they are evil. He got to a point and stayed there. Maybe he even got attacked by those thoughtforms.

But here is the issue, are you willing to experience, to see, to sense? Not saying you in particular. But some prefer to stick to what they have learned so far. Then they say no to any change.
viewtopic.php?p=14333#p14333

Being human is what it means to be alive, a lot of people seem to forget this.

But honestly, are people like Vraum going to pretend they know the affairs of entities that are listed as literal royalty even in the Goetia.

Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:24 pm
by Agni
By going crazy i mean that they are heavily attacked constantly. They have to look for multiple people, including themselves. You can imagine that once in a while something manages to break through your defences. You can get either possesed for a while or torn apart.

While they are more advanced and more powerful, the things they are dealing with are as difficult.

Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:27 pm
by Snakeway
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:18 pm
Snakeway wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:07 pm
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 3:45 pm The fact that some gods, including the Goetia ones, are suddenly going crazy for a while is proof enough that they are humans as well.
Is this a fact? what exactly are they doing that they ar ''going crazy''?
You are free to look yourself. This is the only way to prove a fact.

Varun, I, and others can talk all day. It only becomes a fact if you experience it yourself.

Even Don had something going on for a while. He was indeed pointing at some thoughtforms that try to portray Satan. This probably came as a shock to him and he started to believe that the gods are not real or that they are evil. He got to a point and stayed there. Maybe he even got attacked by those thoughtforms.

But here is the issue, are you willing to experience, to see, to sense? Not saying you in particular. But some prefer to stick to what they have learned so far. Then they say no to any change.
I am not focused on this Gods, When one came after me and I played along with it he ended up causing me some very bad things in an indirect manner. I am focused on my goals and on my own soul.
I would like to hear your experiences. No judgement from my part

Re: About Vine, a warning about this demon/god

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:33 pm
by Agni
BirdofFreedom wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:23 pm
Agni wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:18 pm
Snakeway wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:07 pm

Is this a fact? what exactly are they doing that they ar ''going crazy''?
You are free to look yourself. This is the only way to prove a fact.

Varun, I, and others can talk all day. It only becomes a fact if you experience it yourself.

Even Don had something going on for a while. He was indeed pointing at some thoughtforms that try to portray Satan. This probably came as a shock to him and he started to believe that the gods are not real or that they are evil. He got to a point and stayed there. Maybe he even got attacked by those thoughtforms.

But here is the issue, are you willing to experience, to see, to sense? Not saying you in particular. But some prefer to stick to what they have learned so far. Then they say no to any change.
viewtopic.php?p=14333#p14333

Being human is what it means to be alive, a lot of people seem to forget this.

But honestly, are people like Vraum going to pretend they know the affairs of entities that are listed as literal royalty even in the Goetia.
Being royalty doesnt mean you cant talk or communicate with people. Usually you get even more attention because of it.

How does that translate to not knowing what is going on? Plus Varun is close to them, she usually is around them. She is witnessing the events as they are or at least through her perspective. Another plus is that she can always ask what is going on.

For the past few months she is spending a lot of time around them. Maybe this does translate to gaining knowledge of some things.