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Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:40 pm
by AnonPoster
HPBlackMamba wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:50 pm
AnonPoster wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:10 pm I also don't understand what the actual fuck is going on with JoS and their members. I am supposed to be SS myself, but I am personally so ashamed of their behaviour and fed up with it all that I barely want to call myself that anymore.



I also don't want to even try to be part of their forums anymore, and I don't see a point when I barely can even normally talk there anymore without being attacked, silenced, threatened to be kicked out and banned. This Cobra guy who is now a leader is seriously going on my nerves lately, and I used to respect him sometimes before but he is acting totally crazy and he is a literal tyrant, he is thirsty for power and I can't believe we are being led by him now.

I refuse to be active on his forums anymore, and I personally think Satanists should be free and not act like xians, while I see him constantly trying to xianize us all in various ways and make us feel self-hateful and fully dependent on him to even think. Also their forums are more and more heavily moderated and most members have to wait 1-2 or even more days to have their posts approved finally, often it doesn't even happen. I believe also current Saturn transit is affecting JoS negatively as well, and we see heavy abuse of power, silencing people on force, taking their rights away more and more...

............


I will try to shorten up a bit what bothered me a lots last few years as an active member of their family:

- I am meditating daily for plenty of years already and I am practicing magic for a very long time and I have really tried to fit in at first, but they were usually really rude to me there on forums and were always trying to make me think badly of myself and like there is no way that I can make any real advancement and actually have nice unique experiences on my own and that I have actually discovered something on my own that is not listed there on a site or approved by Cobra or Maxine

-my all natal chart is showing I am extremely psychic and good with magic and I have some confidence in myself already, I told some SS in private some new stuff I have found out in one occasion that sounded odd to them and they called me mentally ill, only to have Maxine few days later talking about same stuff and they called her a genius ( I mean she has a title and I am braindead as everyone else there and if I complain ever about how I am treated by most if them I am ungrateful piece of shit)

- Clergy there keep claiming how they are so advanced and care about us all but they can't notice a single jew really and sometimes it almost looks like they are keeping them there on purpose and working with them ( especially Cobra)

- despite understanding there are some jews there there is no way I can share their paranoia how literally nobody aside from Cobra and Maxine should ever be really trusted and how everybody might be a jew (they are literally paranoid and accusing each others of being a jew and betraying each other in private too over some smallest shit)

- many of them are highly toxic, acting like psychic vampires, are manipulative, and can't stop thinking like xians

- they have weird habit of hating blacks almost as they are jews, and it seems plenty of them can't stand opposite gender and they keep fighting among themselves cause cause of those matters non-stop

- Maxine has just disappeared and nobody can even ask themselves what has happened????! Usually asking this leads to ban immediately and even in private talking to SS about it (even of they were good friends of yours) can lead to them reporting you to Cobra and betraying and bullying you and some might even try cursing you

-apparently if you want to have some sort of a coven or group in private trying to advance and do rituals you are going against JoS rules and you are acting like "Aldrick" also "a kike" ( I had some ideas of having some group so we can practice magic and advance together and maybe we could talk on discord or somewhere or even meet in private if they are okay with it)

-if you were thinking of having your own website, forum or writing some material on magic you might get labelled as acting as "Zola" and even if you are simply working on some art projects you are acting as "Zola"
( I am planning on doing some of those and even having a lil site where I can share some tested stuff that could help some people advance and I am interested in earning money with psychic readings and even with art but I am told by some SS in private this will make most likely make our Satanic very angry if they find out about it and I can expect them to be in "a war" with me (lol) and will be trying to take down that site and will try to sabotage me whenever I go)

- if you believe that people should be sexually liberated and genders should be somewhat equal you are acting like "Don" and you might be eventually terminated and kicked out most likely

-they told me all bunch of lies about this forum and about some of members here and ex-members and they made many people believe how this forum is made only to slander and destroy JoS and if someone is not with JoS fully and agrees with those doctrines they are then against it and against the Gods for sure

-if you are SS you are bombarded with some rules and obligations and most likely you aren't allowed to even have free time anymore

- I have guardians and nice relationship with them but some members there tried constantly to convince me how nobody would guard me or help me in any way cause somehow I am not worthy enough or something ( I am not real SS anymore based on them )

-they are talking about how even thinking about some "sinful" things is going to have Gods punishing and abandoning you

- I dislike how some useful long term members got treated by Cobra and some of them they got used and tossed away like a garbage

I could rant and vent even more but I will stop here now. I barely can open up anywhere about this anymore. I am also confused why they keep attacking and forcing everyone to fully accept their beliefs and why are they claiming how all members of this forum are kikes. I am really fed up lately and deeply ashamed.
I am sorry for what you have been through. On this forum we have a policy of freedom, so you never have to worry about being controlled or censored. You can share your views without apology.
Thanks

Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:28 am
by HPSZolaLuckyStar
- Maxine has just disappeared and nobody can even ask themselves what has happened????! Usually asking this leads to ban immediately and even in private talking to SS about it (even of they were good friends of yours) can lead to them reporting you to Cobra and betraying and bullying you and some might even try cursing you

-apparently if you want to have some sort of a coven or group in private trying to advance and do rituals you are going against JoS rules and you are acting like "Aldrick" also "a kike" ( I had some ideas of having some group so we can practice magic and advance together and maybe we could talk on discord or somewhere or even meet in private if they are okay with it)

-if you were thinking of having your own website, forum or writing some material on magic you might get labelled as acting as "Zola" and even if you are simply working on some art projects you are acting as "Zola"
( I am planning on doing some of those and even having a lil site where I can share some tested stuff that could help some people advance and I am interested in earning money with psychic readings and even with art but I am told by some SS in private this will make most likely make our Satanic very angry if they find out about it and I can expect them to be in "a war" with me (lol) and will be trying to take down that site and will try to sabotage me whenever I go)


Hi there, welcome to the T4S :)

I'm sorry you've been experiencing this. I understand and empathize. I know exactly of what you speak and it's no lie and no exaggeration. You are telling the truth.

I find it humorous to hear I'm held up as the epitome of evil and people warned not to transgress as I did, like I'm Satan Himself. LOL.

Be free to share what you have learned. I encourage you to share on our forum. This is what it's about here: free speech. We don't moderate. Only if it's spam or illegal, obviously.

I can tell you that many whom I'd believed were my good friends (even family), people I'd known for years; as soon as cobra and shannon accused me of being a kike, completely drank the koolaid.

These 'friends' didn't think for themselves. And they turned on me. It meant nothing, all the good I'd done in their lives. I gave a lot, but in the end was shit on and cast out.

Cobra (nick) and shannon thought they were 'exposing' me. But really, they were exposing themselves.
Cobra, in a private conversation, told me I was a 'one woman army'. He might have given that some thought.

PS: I received evidence in confidence that shows Maxine to be deceased.

Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:59 am
by Snakeway
AnonPoster wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:10 pm
-apparently if you want to have some sort of a coven or group in private trying to advance and do rituals you are going against JoS rules and you are acting like "Aldrick" also "a kike" ( I had some ideas of having some group so we can practice magic and advance together and maybe we could talk on discord or somewhere or even meet in private if they are okay with it)

-if you were thinking of having your own website, forum or writing some material on magic you might get labelled as acting as "Zola" and even if you are simply working on some art projects you are acting as "Zola"
( I am planning on doing some of those and even having a lil site where I can share some tested stuff that could help some people advance and I am interested in earning money with psychic readings and even with art but I am told by some SS in private this will make most likely make our Satanic very angry if they find out about it and I can expect them to be in "a war" with me (lol) and will be trying to take down that site and will try to sabotage me whenever I go)

This is bad, so they want to SHUT PEOPLE DOWN? People who have Truth do not behave like this, only people who want to hide their lies.
So what if you want to make an website and you have the wrong Idea? If they would leave you be people would see you are wrong and stick with them and that's it. This is a sign they don't think they are right and want to shut other people down. I think this Inquisition behaviour is very bad for everyone.

This is probably about the position thing, they believe that their website and forum will secure a position for them as leaders in a new Satanic world order or something, so they attack other people for their individual initiative in an attempt to keep their own position. In my opinion, this is delusional.

Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:02 am
by Snakeway
RagingCloud4050 wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:51 pm

Anyone who hates on another gender needs to grow as a person.
This is ridiculous. Hating another gender, lol.

Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:08 am
by Snakeway
HPSZolaLuckyStar wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:28 am





PS: I received evidence in confidence that shows Maxine to be deceased.[/color]
She is not dead, people don't die so easily. And why would they hide that she is dead if this is the case? What would be the problem of announcing she died?

Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:04 am
by HPSZolaLuckyStar
I'm not going to argue about that, all I know is I was shown evidence she is deceased.
Why would they hide it? I don't know. I can speculate, but I don't know.

Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:34 am
by AnonPoster
What is your reason is it something that complicated.
HPBlackMamba wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:57 pm
AnonPoster wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:05 am What are your reasons?
HPBlackMamba wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:48 am You don't need to agree with my views, or the T4S doctrine to be a member of our organization. There are many people who practice Hinduism in our community. If you like Hinduism or Buddhism, then more power to you. Satanism is about freedom, and you should feel free to follow a path that best suits your lifestyle.

I have my reasons for rejecting Hinduism, but those are my reasons. You shouldn't feel obligated to believe the same as I do, just follow your own path.
Join me on discord, and I will explain my perspective to you.
https://discord.gg/rcAbNVaxgW

Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:35 am
by AnonPoster
What is the evidence? This needs to be answered.
HPSZolaLuckyStar wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:04 am I'm not going to argue about that, all I know is I was shown evidence she is deceased.
Why would they hide it? I don't know. I can speculate, but I don't know.

Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:37 am
by AnonPoster
From reading their forums the place is toxic. Could someone please answer what happened to almost twenty years of donations to the Joy Of Satan? Some of those people have bragged they have given hundreds of dollars to that place.

AnonPoster wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:10 pm I also don't understand what the actual fuck is going on with JoS and their members. I am supposed to be SS myself, but I am personally so ashamed of their behaviour and fed up with it all that I barely want to call myself that anymore.



I also don't want to even try to be part of their forums anymore, and I don't see a point when I barely can even normally talk there anymore without being attacked, silenced, threatened to be kicked out and banned. This Cobra guy who is now a leader is seriously going on my nerves lately, and I used to respect him sometimes before but he is acting totally crazy and he is a literal tyrant, he is thirsty for power and I can't believe we are being led by him now.

I refuse to be active on his forums anymore, and I personally think Satanists should be free and not act like xians, while I see him constantly trying to xianize us all in various ways and make us feel self-hateful and fully dependent on him to even think. Also their forums are more and more heavily moderated and most members have to wait 1-2 or even more days to have their posts approved finally, often it doesn't even happen. I believe also current Saturn transit is affecting JoS negatively as well, and we see heavy abuse of power, silencing people on force, taking their rights away more and more...

............


I will try to shorten up a bit what bothered me a lots last few years as an active member of their family:

- I am meditating daily for plenty of years already and I am practicing magic for a very long time and I have really tried to fit in at first, but they were usually really rude to me there on forums and were always trying to make me think badly of myself and like there is no way that I can make any real advancement and actually have nice unique experiences on my own and that I have actually discovered something on my own that is not listed there on a site or approved by Cobra or Maxine

-my all natal chart is showing I am extremely psychic and good with magic and I have some confidence in myself already, I told some SS in private some new stuff I have found out in one occasion that sounded odd to them and they called me mentally ill, only to have Maxine few days later talking about same stuff and they called her a genius ( I mean she has a title and I am braindead as everyone else there and if I complain ever about how I am treated by most if them I am ungrateful piece of shit)

- Clergy there keep claiming how they are so advanced and care about us all but they can't notice a single jew really and sometimes it almost looks like they are keeping them there on purpose and working with them ( especially Cobra)

- despite understanding there are some jews there there is no way I can share their paranoia how literally nobody aside from Cobra and Maxine should ever be really trusted and how everybody might be a jew (they are literally paranoid and accusing each others of being a jew and betraying each other in private too over some smallest shit)

- many of them are highly toxic, acting like psychic vampires, are manipulative, and can't stop thinking like xians

- they have weird habit of hating blacks almost as they are jews, and it seems plenty of them can't stand opposite gender and they keep fighting among themselves cause cause of those matters non-stop

- Maxine has just disappeared and nobody can even ask themselves what has happened????! Usually asking this leads to ban immediately and even in private talking to SS about it (even of they were good friends of yours) can lead to them reporting you to Cobra and betraying and bullying you and some might even try cursing you

-apparently if you want to have some sort of a coven or group in private trying to advance and do rituals you are going against JoS rules and you are acting like "Aldrick" also "a kike" ( I had some ideas of having some group so we can practice magic and advance together and maybe we could talk on discord or somewhere or even meet in private if they are okay with it)

-if you were thinking of having your own website, forum or writing some material on magic you might get labelled as acting as "Zola" and even if you are simply working on some art projects you are acting as "Zola"
( I am planning on doing some of those and even having a lil site where I can share some tested stuff that could help some people advance and I am interested in earning money with psychic readings and even with art but I am told by some SS in private this will make most likely make our Satanic very angry if they find out about it and I can expect them to be in "a war" with me (lol) and will be trying to take down that site and will try to sabotage me whenever I go)

- if you believe that people should be sexually liberated and genders should be somewhat equal you are acting like "Don" and you might be eventually terminated and kicked out most likely

-they told me all bunch of lies about this forum and about some of members here and ex-members and they made many people believe how this forum is made only to slander and destroy JoS and if someone is not with JoS fully and agrees with those doctrines they are then against it and against the Gods for sure

-if you are SS you are bombarded with some rules and obligations and most likely you aren't allowed to even have free time anymore

- I have guardians and nice relationship with them but some members there tried constantly to convince me how nobody would guard me or help me in any way cause somehow I am not worthy enough or something ( I am not real SS anymore based on them )

-they are talking about how even thinking about some "sinful" things is going to have Gods punishing and abandoning you

- I dislike how some useful long term members got treated by Cobra and some of them they got used and tossed away like a garbage

I could rant and vent even more but I will stop here now. I barely can open up anywhere about this anymore. I am also confused why they keep attacking and forcing everyone to fully accept their beliefs and why are they claiming how all members of this forum are kikes. I am really fed up lately and deeply ashamed.

Re: jos member here my comments on the jos

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:44 am
by AnonPoster
This is obviously about control over the entire organization. The leader of the Joy Of Satan does not trust any of his members.
Snakeway wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:59 am
AnonPoster wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:10 pm
-apparently if you want to have some sort of a coven or group in private trying to advance and do rituals you are going against JoS rules and you are acting like "Aldrick" also "a kike" ( I had some ideas of having some group so we can practice magic and advance together and maybe we could talk on discord or somewhere or even meet in private if they are okay with it)

-if you were thinking of having your own website, forum or writing some material on magic you might get labelled as acting as "Zola" and even if you are simply working on some art projects you are acting as "Zola"
( I am planning on doing some of those and even having a lil site where I can share some tested stuff that could help some people advance and I am interested in earning money with psychic readings and even with art but I am told by some SS in private this will make most likely make our Satanic very angry if they find out about it and I can expect them to be in "a war" with me (lol) and will be trying to take down that site and will try to sabotage me whenever I go)

This is bad, so they want to SHUT PEOPLE DOWN? People who have Truth do not behave like this, only people who want to hide their lies.
So what if you want to make an website and you have the wrong Idea? If they would leave you be people would see you are wrong and stick with them and that's it. This is a sign they don't think they are right and want to shut other people down. I think this Inquisition behaviour is very bad for everyone.

This is probably about the position thing, they believe that their website and forum will secure a position for them as leaders in a new Satanic world order or something, so they attack other people for their individual initiative in an attempt to keep their own position. In my opinion, this is delusional.