Agni wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 5:11 pm
BirdofFreedom wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 4:48 pm
Agni wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 4:33 pm
Being royalty doesnt mean you cant talk or communicate with people. Usually you get even more attention because of it.
How does that translate to not knowing what is going on? Plus Varun is close to them, she usually is around them. She is witnessing the events as they are or at least through her perspective. Another plus is that she can always ask what is going on.
For the past few months she is spending a lot of time around them. Maybe this does translate to gaining knowledge of some things.
Also varun being 'close' to them is just your assumption.
Do you know many deluded people there are that claims the same?
Also what exactly would the other gods gain from sharing this information with him true or false? all it does is make Satan and the crowned princes/s look weak.
You're telling me Astaroth who can see the future, and Satan where it's stated in al-jilwah knows all truth and falsehood could not see or foresee that Vine would be a traitor?
Especially since in the aljilwah it states that Satan places his affairs in the hands of those who he has tried and tested?
So did he fail with Vine? what went wrong then.
I guess you are willing to trust an old text. Because it's old it must be true. Or because of whatever other reason its true.
Is al-jilwah the bible christians prove that god is real?
While some gods love pride and to show off, others don't care whether they are popular or if they look weak. Looking weak doesnt mean you are.
While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything. Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.
I am close to the gods as well. I have been around her and around the gods she is close with. Is that assuming? In your mind it maybe be. But have you been there with them? Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot.
But here is the question. What is your relationship with them?
you can say the same about varun, what makes her trust worthy?
What does varun have to show that makes her trust worth?
'While Astaroth can see in the future it doesn't mean she can see everything'
And who is to say that she can't see things in regards to Vine's affairs? do you know this?
'Plus sometimes some things need to happen in order to get a certain outcome.'
And this is relevant to Vine how exactly? are you implying that Vine had to go traitor? and if so then for what outcome exactly?
'I am close to the gods as well. ... Is that assuming?'
That's not assumption on your part, it's something that you seem to believe, but just because you believe something doesn't make it fact. like you you said "In your mind it maybe be." that also applies to you.
"But have you been there with them?"
Good question, maybe you should ask them.
"Or are you trying to find reasons to prove that the gods are something they are not and that everyone else is just a deluded idiot."
I'm looking for answers, if someone makes a claim of something i expect them to give reasons that can be proven or validated, do you expect me to just believe something because someone says something?