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Cool. But if were supposed to meditate to escape why did you stop meditating after 6 months. For 2 weeks. You opened the third eye. And it closed after 2 weeks of no meditation.

Why did you stop meditation.

When you said you were apart of jos for 10 years I originally thought you took it serious and meditated for 10 years. But you said you didn't.

I believe that you believe what you are saying. But I also believe that stopping meditation didn't help you.

RagingCloud4050 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm Cool. But if were supposed to meditate to escape why did you stop meditating after 6 months. For 2 weeks. You opened the third eye. And it closed after 2 weeks of no meditation.

Why did you stop meditation.

When you said you were apart of jos for 10 years I originally thought you took it serious and meditated for 10 years. But you said you didn't.

I believe that you believe what you are saying. But I also believe that stopping meditation didn't help you.

You do give them ways to escape if you're running some sort of experiment... But then again, prisoners are going to find ways to escape on their own and what the prison warden does is that he'll send in some of his own correctional officers AS prisoners ((these Nordic aliens/or our spirit guides/or "ascended masters")) to pretend that they're one of us ((in this case, these "spirit guides" that also take on the form of Nordics are trustees... Or someone "outside the prison" trying to break us out, but in reality it's a prison guard **pretending to play** the role)).. We seek their guidance to help in escaping, than we seek the prison's guidance... It's better for them to BE the ones giving us "these ways out" than for us to be the ones to do it for ourselves. You get my point...?

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You: Cool. But if were supposed to meditate to escape why did you stop meditating after 6 months. For 2 weeks. You opened the third eye. And it closed after 2 weeks of no meditation.

Why did you stop meditation.

When you said you were apart of jos for 10 years I originally thought you took it serious and meditated for 10 years. But you said you didn't.

I believe that you believe what you are saying. But I also believe that stopping meditation didn't help you.

Me: I didn't fully open my third eye, but I opened it well enough to where I was seeing the spirits themselves... And different stuff along with that. It was like "half-way" open, or maybe a little bit more than half way. If you do third eye meditations and also practice the JoS's beginner meditations and their power meditations your third eye will begin to open, and you'll understand where I'm coming from... You'll know **for certain** when it does, because you'll start seeing orbs ((stars)) that float around everywhere on the astral... Right in your own living room, or w/e you're at. The spirits are literally **everywhere**, and different kinds too.

As for me stopping... I stopped out of fear ((and I told you this in private messages)). I still do meditate, but I just didn't meditate as MUCH as I use to, and once these 'gods' pinned me down well enough with the astral attachment I told you about... Well, I hardly can meditate ((at all)) now, unless someone removes this astral attachment on me ((but I highly doubt that will ever happen either)).

Makes sense but you said meditation is the way to escape so why did you stop?

RagingCloud4050 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:43 pm Makes sense but you said meditation is the way to escape so why did you stop?

I just told you up above... Re-read my comment. : ) And I didn't stop, I just don't meditate as much as I use to... But I did stop for a while though ((after the 2 weeks of seeing the astral... Having empowered astral senses/and a third eye)), and that while was around maybe a year, or so...? I can't remember as this has happened about 10 years ago... And I have a nasty astral attachment on me now that fogs up the details and keeps me from remembering everything to a "T". But yeah... I never gave up on meditation completely. I would be FOOLISH to do so.

Alright then. You never said you stopped out of fear you just said you saw wonderous and terrifying things. wait ok. I rered it and you said you stopped due to the astral attacks.

RagingCloud4050 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:46 pm Alright then. You never said you stopped out of fear you just said you saw wonderous and terrifying things.

No, I did stop out of fear... For about a year or 2, but then I went back to it after that, but just not with so much dedication/and motivation as I first did ((to begin with))... But hey, if you don't believe me... That's fine ((for the most part)), but it's a shame ((on my end)) that I can't do enough to where you would see the big picture... If you're truly sincere about the path your own, and you're convicted/and dedicated enough in meditation and having the right amount of passion behind it, to where you do eventually open up your third eye... Then you'll come to this conclusion on your own. That you're an exploit, and this planet is a farm... Humanity is enslaved. You'll see, but just don't make the same mistake I made... Running away from the truth. You don't get a second chance...

Its what they say too. That were farmed for our energy. Nobody is hiding that. It makes sense. But giving up and running away when faced with adversity is not something that should be done.

RagingCloud4050 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:57 pm Its what they say too. That were farmed for our energy. Nobody is hiding that. It makes sense. But giving up and running away when faced with adversity is not something that should be done.

I never "gave up", nor have I ever "ran away" and if it seemed like I meant that in my writings, I didn't... Clearly you're misunderstanding me, and don't judge me... Not until you reach that level yourself, and once you do then you're going to understand where I'm coming from ((unless I'm being trolled right now, which is very... Very likely)), lol.

Why would i troll you. I know very well there are beings that attack you. It happens occasionally when I'm lucid dreaming. You become lucid can't move and can't use the powers and are held down by multiple other people.

Burnt. To death. being drowned. Loads of things. Did it stop me meditation. No. So no I'm not trolling. I feel no need to play keyboard warrior. Rather I just state the facts as I view them.

I don't misunderstand you. You said you stopped for a year or so. And no longer meditate with dedication and motivation.

You say we are being farmed and need to meditate to escape the matrix.

What part of this is misunderstandable. Seems real simple to me.

Also I don't feel the need to put you down. Im just extremely fucking blunt. If this bothers you don't speak with me. If you thought I made you look stupid. No I don't care to do that what would I get from it.

Validation. I don't need such things. I am my own motivation. Note Im as blunt in real life as I am on the internet.

RagingCloud4050 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:10 pm Why would i troll you. I know very well there are beings that attack you. It happens occasionally when I'm lucid dreaming. You become lucid can't move and can't use the powers and are held down by multiple other people.

Burnt. To death. being drowned. Loads of things. Did it stop me meditation. No. So no I'm not trolling. I feel no need to play keyboard warrior. Rather I just state the facts as I view them.

I don't misunderstand you. You said you stopped for a year or so. And no longer meditate with dedication and motivation.

You say we are being farmed and need to meditate to escape the matrix.

What part of this is misunderstandable. Seems real simple to me.

Why do you keep talking to me here, and not in private messages ((like you were to begin with))...? I don't really care if you do, but I just think it's a little odd... That's all... It's like you're trying to "put me on blast" or something, in hopes that I would look like a fool...? As for your lucid dream experiences... I **highly** doubt they're as severe compared to what one goes through when they have an open third eye and actually EXPERIENCE what is on the other side/astral realm. Those on the astral ((when you have an open third eye)) can PHYSICALLY touch you... And the pain on the astral is different compared to the pain you feel on the phsyical, but when your third eye is open I sometimes think that both worlds ((the astral and the physical)) don't become one ((joined/merged together)). And if you ever do get to that point, then you likely very well would give up... Depending on the situation and how bad it can get.

As for me being a keyboard warrior...? ((if you're insinuating such)), well... That's a laugh and you insinuating such ((if you are)) is a keyboard warrior move on your part, especially when you have to do it behind the 'safety' of this system.