The Dribble Of Cobra
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:01 am
I will use this moronic post of Hoodedcobra's to show the general worthless level of his posts. This moron's post is here:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.ph ... d99e6dac7f
Note the long paragraph's of dribble with nothing stated no quotes, no evidence nothing cited. Just bitching and whining. This is not the mind of someone who knows anything on the subject. Maybe he is hiding something. One he is hiding in plain view his total ignorance of the subject and maybe he knows that Nietzsche was very Christian. Nietzsche's whole argument against Christianity is that it had lost the meaning of Christ in the Gospels and become against the message of Christ. Nietzsche view was inline what that of the first Christians the Gnostic's, in fact Nietzsche's view is becoming popular amongst new age Christian Gnostic's.
Nietzsche prototype of his superman was Christ.
So lets do the one thing nick didn't and actually consult the comments of a Nietzsche scholar [who is also pro NS] and statements of Nietzsche himself not just name drop titles to appear smart...
"For Nietzsche, "The church is precisely that against which Jesus preached- and against which he taught his disciples to fight"....And thus, Christianity which ironically took its name from its radically different original founder and the Church, are regarded by Nietzsche as the exact antitheses to the Gospel, to Christ's spirit and practice, and therefore, the "world-historical irony" lay in the fact "that mankind should fall on its knees before the opposite of what was the original, the meaning, the right of the Gospel."
Nietzsche's following:
"Jesus had done away with the concept 'guilt' instilling-he had denied any chasm between God and man, he lived this unity of God and man as his 'glad tiding'..."What did Christ deny? Everything that is today called Christian...precisely that which is Christian in the ecclesiastical sense is anti-Christian in essence: things and people instead of symbols; history instead of eternal facts; forms, rites, dogmas instead of a way of life. Utter indifference to dogmas, cults, priests, church, theology is Christian.. Jesus starts directly with the condition the ''kingdom of Heaven' is in the heart, and he does not bind the means to in in the observances of the Jewish church; the reality of Judaism itself he relates as nothing; he is purely inward He likewise ignores the entire system of crude formalities governing intercourse with God: he opposes the whole teaching of repentance and atonement; he demonstrates how one must live in order to feel 'deified' and how one will not achieve it through repentance and contrition for one sins; 'sin is of no account' in his central judgment... The Kingdom of Heaven is a condition of the heart...not something 'above the earth'. The Kingdom of God does not 'come' chronologically-historically,, on a certain day in the calendar, something that might be here one day but not the day before: it is an 'inward change in the individual', something that comes at every moment and at every moment has not yet arrived".
Thus spoke Nietzsche:
"To resume I shall now relate the real history of Christianity The word 'Christianity ' is already a misunderstanding in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross. The Evangel' died on the Cross. What was called 'Evangel' from this moment onwards was already the opposite of what he had lived: 'bad tidings', a dyangel...Only Christian practice, a life such as he who died on the cross lived, is Christian...Even today, such a life is possible for certain men even necessary genuine primitive Christianity will be possible at all times ...Not a belief but a going, above all a not doing of many things a different being..."
For Nietzsche:
"Christianity was an inner experience, a practice, and not an outward "truth"...Therefore true Christianity does not come from blind adherence to a limited set of ideas God, the Beyond, Heaven...what Nietzsche termed "crude answers", but from a direct personal encounter with the spiritual reality with the "God within".
"Adopting Nietzsche's views on Christ and Christianity, the Nazis also believed that true Christianity was base on the mystical concept "the kingdom of heaven is within us", and Chamberlain, basing himself on Christ's own words: "the kingdom of God cometh not with the observation: neither shall they say, lo here or lo there. Fro behold. the Kingdom of God is within you" acknowledges this concept of an inner Christ:
"These words of Christ have, however, as we can see, never the character of a doctrine...Down through the ages we hear the words 'Learn of me' and we understand what they mean: to be as Christ was, to live as Christ lived, to die as Christ died, that is the Kingdom of God, that is eternal life".[1]
Source
[1]Nietzsche, Prophet Of Nazism: The Cult Of The Superman, Abir Taha
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.ph ... d99e6dac7f
Note the long paragraph's of dribble with nothing stated no quotes, no evidence nothing cited. Just bitching and whining. This is not the mind of someone who knows anything on the subject. Maybe he is hiding something. One he is hiding in plain view his total ignorance of the subject and maybe he knows that Nietzsche was very Christian. Nietzsche's whole argument against Christianity is that it had lost the meaning of Christ in the Gospels and become against the message of Christ. Nietzsche view was inline what that of the first Christians the Gnostic's, in fact Nietzsche's view is becoming popular amongst new age Christian Gnostic's.
Nietzsche prototype of his superman was Christ.
So lets do the one thing nick didn't and actually consult the comments of a Nietzsche scholar [who is also pro NS] and statements of Nietzsche himself not just name drop titles to appear smart...
"For Nietzsche, "The church is precisely that against which Jesus preached- and against which he taught his disciples to fight"....And thus, Christianity which ironically took its name from its radically different original founder and the Church, are regarded by Nietzsche as the exact antitheses to the Gospel, to Christ's spirit and practice, and therefore, the "world-historical irony" lay in the fact "that mankind should fall on its knees before the opposite of what was the original, the meaning, the right of the Gospel."
Nietzsche's following:
"Jesus had done away with the concept 'guilt' instilling-he had denied any chasm between God and man, he lived this unity of God and man as his 'glad tiding'..."What did Christ deny? Everything that is today called Christian...precisely that which is Christian in the ecclesiastical sense is anti-Christian in essence: things and people instead of symbols; history instead of eternal facts; forms, rites, dogmas instead of a way of life. Utter indifference to dogmas, cults, priests, church, theology is Christian.. Jesus starts directly with the condition the ''kingdom of Heaven' is in the heart, and he does not bind the means to in in the observances of the Jewish church; the reality of Judaism itself he relates as nothing; he is purely inward He likewise ignores the entire system of crude formalities governing intercourse with God: he opposes the whole teaching of repentance and atonement; he demonstrates how one must live in order to feel 'deified' and how one will not achieve it through repentance and contrition for one sins; 'sin is of no account' in his central judgment... The Kingdom of Heaven is a condition of the heart...not something 'above the earth'. The Kingdom of God does not 'come' chronologically-historically,, on a certain day in the calendar, something that might be here one day but not the day before: it is an 'inward change in the individual', something that comes at every moment and at every moment has not yet arrived".
Thus spoke Nietzsche:
"To resume I shall now relate the real history of Christianity The word 'Christianity ' is already a misunderstanding in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross. The Evangel' died on the Cross. What was called 'Evangel' from this moment onwards was already the opposite of what he had lived: 'bad tidings', a dyangel...Only Christian practice, a life such as he who died on the cross lived, is Christian...Even today, such a life is possible for certain men even necessary genuine primitive Christianity will be possible at all times ...Not a belief but a going, above all a not doing of many things a different being..."
For Nietzsche:
"Christianity was an inner experience, a practice, and not an outward "truth"...Therefore true Christianity does not come from blind adherence to a limited set of ideas God, the Beyond, Heaven...what Nietzsche termed "crude answers", but from a direct personal encounter with the spiritual reality with the "God within".
"Adopting Nietzsche's views on Christ and Christianity, the Nazis also believed that true Christianity was base on the mystical concept "the kingdom of heaven is within us", and Chamberlain, basing himself on Christ's own words: "the kingdom of God cometh not with the observation: neither shall they say, lo here or lo there. Fro behold. the Kingdom of God is within you" acknowledges this concept of an inner Christ:
"These words of Christ have, however, as we can see, never the character of a doctrine...Down through the ages we hear the words 'Learn of me' and we understand what they mean: to be as Christ was, to live as Christ lived, to die as Christ died, that is the Kingdom of God, that is eternal life".[1]
Source
[1]Nietzsche, Prophet Of Nazism: The Cult Of The Superman, Abir Taha
I guess it is true what they say, takes one to know one.