what happens to satanists after death?

[EpicShauna]

Do Satanists want to go to hell? Is there heaven or hell? I'm confused, please answer me this question. Is there afterlife?

[HPSZolaLuckyStar]

Hi EpicShauna, welcome to the T4S!

Some Satanists believe they go to hell upon their physical death. I do not believe this, myself.

I don't think there IS a heaven or a hell, except perhaps, what we create for ourselves. For example; a member on the old forum wrote something about an occultist who had the experience of being in the astral encountering christians laying in coffins. And when he asked them what are you doing? They said they were waiting for the rapture. So you see, they created this for themselves.

I think it's quite within the realm of possibility that in some other part of the astral there is a 'hell'. But again, it will be that which true believers create for themselves. For a christian, this 'hell' will be horrible. For a Satanist who believes it's Valhalla, it will be beautiful. But I feel in either case it's a creation of the mind of the believer. I'm not saying thats necessarily a bad thing, just saying what I think it actually is.

People believe that memory is contained in the brain however, this is not so. And it was proven because there are documented cases where people who literally don't have a brain are fully functional. There are other cases where they literally severed the connection between the two hemispheres of the brain, and got two personalities. So whats going on?

We arise from the unseen probability field, pass through the astral and emerge into the physical. If the receiver is damaged or faulty – like separating the two hemispheres of a persons brain, it can scramble the communication. Perhaps that's whats happening in that instance. I am of the opinion that 'our' memories – including those of other selves in other timelines – is stored somewhere in the astral.

That said, some memory is stored in the blood and the bone. Our bodies possess their own separate consciousness. It's completely obedient to ours, but it has its own feelings. I had a short conversation with my own heart once. It spoke up, it began the conversation. And it was not 'me'. I have had other proofs of this but its personal.

I'm a dream yogin. I spent over 10 years working on dream recall, working on my awareness, maintaining it during lucids to the point I was able to remain aware and 'awake' even as the body fell asleep. I'd move on out then into the astral, go about my business, and still be aware of rejoining the physical in the morning. There was no lapse of consciousness. I'm definite that there is an 'after'.

I've read many peoples accounts of near death experiences. The white light etc. Which I'm convinced is a soul trap. The 'bank'. But I've written about that elsewhere. You can go to the old T4S forum and look at my posts regarding after death. I'm bringing it up because I've had many near death experiences. And there was no bright light at the end of a tunnel opening up for me.

If you're able to think for yourself, if you can still question, if you aren't totally subservient to the jesus construct, or whatever other construct, like allah, if you can still think for yourself, you'll not be absorbed into the trap. In which case, you'll wander the astral planes, eventually settling into the layer or strata most appropriate for you. Where you'll stay for an indefinite time before choosing rebirth. I'm aware of this because I possess past life memories. Not of the whole life, but seminal moments.

What I mean by 'appropriate' is you'll experience what you're capable of experiencing. You'll go the place you believe in. Just like those christians laying in coffins. If a persons character is very low, morals nonexistent, they might go to one of the darker places.

I've gone exploring in some of these. Some of which I found to be very like the christian idea of 'hell'.
I was there as somebody observing. I wasn't part of the action. And the denizens of these places couldn't seem to see me. It all depends on what level your awareness is at, as to what you can see or not see. This is something subjective to each individual. Consciousness is a strange thing. At the quantum level they discovered protons react differently depending upon who is doing the observing. It's all subjective.

If you're a positive kind of person, you'll go somewhere enjoyable and lighter. Lighter in tone, and literally lighter. For example, you might go to one of the places I think of as the university realms and there experience higher learning, which is very pleasant. I've spent a great deal of time there taking classes. It's always sunny and beautiful in these areas.

We go to where we resonate. And that includes into the soul bank.

I'm aware that there are multitudes of levels existing on the astral, probably billions I've never seen. And that encompasses only places we humans go.

There are also areas for all the different alien species. They have their own places. Sometimes you can accidentally project yourself into these areas. I've done this. I found it very unpleasant simply because it's so....alien. I don't resonate.

We tend to stick to the areas we're compatible with as human beings. Don Juan actually describes this quite well. He also further stated if one is advanced enough, one can create a portal and step through it into other dimensions. And he demonstrated this for Carlos. They were in the desert in the middle of the night. They'd driven for miles to camp in the middle of a barren nowhere. Don Juan got up, walked away from the fire into the darkness and presently returned with a large flower blossom. It was dewy and fresh. This is a form of teleportation.

I know this sort of thing is real because I've experienced it. Two beings opened a dimensional door into a place I was at and tried to get me to come to them, and go with them. I pretended I couldn't see them. I ignored them and they went away again. Another time, a portal opened above my bed and something came through and attacked me. I experienced during yet another time when again, something came through a portal and attacked me, it left in it's wake a cold spot.

Meaning where the thing came through into my dimension, it left a literal cold spot. Let me tell you, sticking your hand into one of these things is like sticking your hand into a meat locker. It's freezing cold. You can literally observe your skin pebbling and the hairs standing up immediately inside this field. That is real. It's physical. I've experienced this.

I know they say ghosts can create cold spots. That ghosts can leave them at a haunted place. I suspect it's because they're intruding from another dimension. Why is it a cold spot as opposed to a hot spot? I don't know.

These kind of 'paranormal' things are real. I don't know if it's advanced technology alone, or if it's a soul power kind of thing when we talk of opening a portal/dimensional doorway/stargate. I suspect the truth is it's actually both. What we can do naturally, other species of intelligence mimic utilizing advanced technology. The reason I suspect this is because all the so called 'paranormal' abilities that we as humans possess in varying degrees of strength, some other intelligence has duplicated utilizing technology. I'm talking about the internet. And that tech comes from the minds of aliens. Non humans. Why do I think this? Because it's known many 'inventions' have been reverse engineered from downed UFOs.

One of my Guardians told me we contain within us (humanity) the ability to open a stargate/portal and step through to wherever in the universe we desire. He said the key to accessing this power lies within the solar chakra. Which I think makes sense, as the solar chakra is the powerhouse that energizes all the others, in particular the third eye to which it is connected.

The solar corresponds to the will. Everything in this universe reacts to and is moved by desire, will and expectation.

For example, sometimes if you want somebody dead, they'll die. Did you do it? Well, it can't be proven definitively. I know (for example), once long ago, somebody did me a great wrong. I cursed them with death, described how they would die and when...and it happened. Just as I said.

Did I do it? Well, I can't prove that. It's hard to say, right? A LOT of people hated this guy. Still, how was I able to describe the manner of his death and the day? I think what happened was, I generated a thoughtform on the astral that took care of this for me according to my desire. Once it's purpose was achieved, it 'died'.

Does it mean if I desire it enough, I can fly? Maybe. How would that come about? Maybe technology? I know as a child, I longed for a special bike. One that would move under its own power, so I didn't have to struggle up hills. And it would move soundlessly. And now, decades later....there is the electric bike. Which didn't exist then.

Manifestation of anything, be it a thoughtform, or even where you go after death comes about through desire, will and expectation. This is generative though, upon ones personal power. The power of their soul.

Most people don't have much power because they give it away to somebody else or to an alien thoughtform like jesus.

That's how those christians ended up in the astral laying in coffins, for example. Because they're sheep. Satanists are the wolves. We think for ourselves. We question.

Yes, there is an afterlife.

If a person survives it is another question altogether. Not everybody does. The ones who go into the trap don't.

But, a lot of us do. We survive to reincarnate again. So long as you can think for yourself, think critically, you're going to be ok.

Asking questions is a good thing. It shows an active inquisitive mind.

Free souls possess this quality.

[Don Danko]

Its usually souls go to the astral plane they resonate with. Then after awhile they reincarnate according to karma which is psychic impressions upon the soul. Some traditions in the east state if a person is advanced enough they will ascend past the astral-mental plane into the casual realm which is Ahura Mazda in the Persian the pure undivided white light of existence before it descends and manifests the worlds and forms. This realm is supposed to be pure bliss and connection. It relates to the casual body which then forms the etheric-astral body and then the material body which is held together by the aura body. However the mental-emotional body is within the casual body. I suspect people go to the realms they worship at some point perhaps.

[EpicShauna]

So you believe in afterlife? I have heard that Lavey Satanism reject the notion of afterlife. Why they are different?

[Don Danko]

The Church of Satan are anarcho-capitalist Libertarians. Aton stole much of his own Satanic Bible from a book by Arthur Desmond, 'Might Makes Right' and much of it is just repeating Ayn Rand who was also a Social Darwinist with her false god of the Free Market. The ideology that the CoS is built is materialistic by nature. Aton's daughter Zena left the CoS and went into the ToS because it was just a materialistic group and had nothing spiritual. Aquino the founder of the Temple Of Set was a High Priest in the CoS but in his own book on the subject him and others wanted to go in a spiritual direction but Aton didn't. So they left and created the ToS.


The Temple of Satan was founded by people who are athiestical materialists but don't like the Social Darwinism of the CoS [such as might is right is based on Social Darwinism] so they went in a more humanistic philosophy which many Liberals enjoy and believed Satan to be the symbol of.

Might is Right is actually Yahweh this is also the Will To Power. In the book of Job, Yahweh appears and brags Job didn't sin. Yahweh murdered his family and tormented him for years on a bet with the devil. To prove a point and that is Yahweh [god] is power and nothing else. And therefore Yahweh is god because he is more powerful then you and can do whatever he wants and does not play even his own claimed rules because Yahweh is a psychopathic mind. Yahweh mocks the three friends of Job for even believing that Yahweh is subject to ethics. Even his own. Yahweh lets it be known its an offense to Yahweh humans would believe that Yahweh is an ethical god in Job. Because ethics put limitations on power and Yahweh is power and thus power can not be limited or its not power to the psychopathic mind of the Bible writers.

How is Social Darwinism rebelling against Yahweh its acting like him. I guess Aton could never overcome his tribal psychology. He just made Yahweh in a new image of his archetype of Satan. Its no mistake a lot of them like Nietzsche, Nietzsche's father was a Protestant minister and Nietzsche reclaimed the god of his youth Yahweh in his Will To Power. As not a mistake Nietzsche praised the Jesus of the gospels as the example of the will to power a raving violent maniac who goes to war with the ethical leaders of his society for attempting to put limitations on Jesus own will to power to claim himself as god and thus above all the ethical commands of the Law of Moses which was put there for humans not Yahweh in human form [Jesus]. Its all connected into his Christian conditioning his insane mind never escaped. That includes his Social Darwinism. Its no mistake the Christian psychopaths of the Nazi Party all praised Protestantism [Judaism for gentiles] Social Darwinism and worshipped Nietzsche's ravings as gospel.