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karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:41 pm
by V.S
I recently heard something that really affected me at a deep level. I always was the saviour type of a person and felt quite guilty for not doing even more and more for others, and no amount of advice like 'think about yourself more' was going to help me, ...up until I heard:
'do not interfere in anyone's karma'
as cruel as it sounds, meaning to not help anybody in need. If you see a person on the street like a homeless, there is a reason why he is there in the first place. To pay for something. To learn something. By interfering, you become part of the problem.
The best is for people to learn by themselves and to help themselves. Making mistakes, learning from them, etc. Satanism is also a lesson of self-reliance.
Re: karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:17 pm
by HPSZolaLuckyStar
while its true we have to look after ourselves before we can help anyone else, Its bullshit that you mustn't ever help anybody else because you'd be 'interfering with their karma'. This, coming from one who thinks we must 'serve' Satan. Wouldn't that be helping Him?
To cold bloodedly turn away when you see somebody in need when you have the power to help is anti-human advice.
Re: karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:20 pm
by V.S
HPSZolaLuckyStar wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:17 pm
while its true we have to look after ourselves before we can help anyone else, Its bullshit that you mustn't ever help anybody else because you'd be 'interfering with their karma'. This, coming from one who thinks we must 'serve' Satan. Wouldn't that be helping Him?
To cold bloodedly turn away when you see somebody in need when you have the power to help is anti-human advice.
I don't know what to say you might be right from a sensible stand point I would fully support this as I did, but from experience, this was a great revelation for me
Re: karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:30 pm
by Snakeway
This is bullshit. Anyone can and should try to overcome its obstacles. People who are in the streets usually are there because of their own actions. But I agree, don't help strangers because you don't know if they are worthy of the help. Save help for people you know and care about. I don't even think Karma exist.
Re: karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:40 pm
by V.S
Snakeway wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:30 pm
This is bullshit. Anyone can and should try to overcome its obstacles. People who are in the streets usually are there because of their own actions. But I agree, don't help strangers because you don't know if they are worthy of the help. Save help for people you know and care about. I don't even think Karma exist.
You can see karma from many perspectives ...you, yourself can be someone's karma as an example somrone wronged you, you curse him to get on the streets but someone comes and rescue him. His karma aka his lesson hasn't been delivered.
Re: karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:59 pm
by Snakeway
V.S wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:40 pm
Snakeway wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:30 pm
This is bullshit. Anyone can and should try to overcome its obstacles. People who are in the streets usually are there because of their own actions. But I agree, don't help strangers because you don't know if they are worthy of the help. Save help for people you know and care about. I don't even think Karma exist.
You can see karma from many perspectives ...you, yourself can be someone's karma as an example somrone wronged you, you curse him to get on the streets but someone comes and rescue him. His karma aka his lesson hasn't been delivered.
My problem with the Idea of Karma is that I believe if I (Hypothetically) wronged someone, but I am strong enough to protect myself against the wronged one curses, then I will no suffer any ''karmic'' consequence. Considering this, then Karma can't be a force on it's own.
Re: karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:10 pm
by V.S
Snakeway wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:59 pm
V.S wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:40 pm
Snakeway wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:30 pm
This is bullshit. Anyone can and should try to overcome its obstacles. People who are in the streets usually are there because of their own actions. But I agree, don't help strangers because you don't know if they are worthy of the help. Save help for people you know and care about. I don't even think Karma exist.
You can see karma from many perspectives ...you, yourself can be someone's karma as an example somrone wronged you, you curse him to get on the streets but someone comes and rescue him. His karma aka his lesson hasn't been delivered.
My problem with the Idea of Karma is that I believe if I (Hypothetically) wronged someone, but I am strong enough to protect myself against the wronged one curses, then I will no suffer any ''karmic'' consequence. Considering this, then Karma can't be a force on it's own.
Many people are cursing naturally and instinctively their suffering can and will act as a curse for an abuser. They say a criminal is hunted in prison by his victims, most of them have nightmares, etc. Nature is a complex notion
Re: karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:13 pm
by Snakeway
V.S wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:10 pm
Snakeway wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:59 pm
V.S wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:40 pm
You can see karma from many perspectives ...you, yourself can be someone's karma as an example somrone wronged you, you curse him to get on the streets but someone comes and rescue him. His karma aka his lesson hasn't been delivered.
My problem with the Idea of Karma is that I believe if I (Hypothetically) wronged someone, but I am strong enough to protect myself against the wronged one curses, then I will no suffer any ''karmic'' consequence. Considering this, then Karma can't be a force on it's own.
Many people are cursing naturally and instinctively their suffering can and will act as a curse for an abuser. They say a criminal is hunted in prison by his victims, most of them have nightmares, etc. Nature is a complex notion
A spiritually advanced abuser who can protect itself will not be affected. Random people curses are weak because they don't meditate. You are going away from the point
Re: karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:24 pm
by V.S
Snakeway wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:13 pm
V.S wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:10 pm
Snakeway wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:59 pm
My problem with the Idea of Karma is that I believe if I (Hypothetically) wronged someone, but I am strong enough to protect myself against the wronged one curses, then I will no suffer any ''karmic'' consequence. Considering this, then Karma can't be a force on it's own.
Many people are cursing naturally and instinctively their suffering can and will act as a curse for an abuser. They say a criminal is hunted in prison by his victims, most of them have nightmares, etc. Nature is a complex notion
A spiritually advanced abuser who can protect itself will not be affected. Random people curses are weak because they don't meditate. You are going away from the point
When you cause pain you generate a shitty distructive energy anyway. I believe becoming high spiritually comes with an elevation of your being. You won't be so prone to hit everybody just like that as you'll become secure within yourself as our beloved mamba used to say...
Abusive people are people who where abused environments. When you meditate, you nurture yourself, you give to YOURSELF and learn to give to others. This whole thing of vampirizing everything around you disappear as you start focusing within yourself. So yeah I truly believe meditation will make us all better people if we are to practice it regularly!
I suspect you are searching for excuses to exercise your true nature of acting without consequences? I don't know maybe ask Satan. I would be curious
Re: karma lessons
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:37 pm
by Snakeway
V.S wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:24 pm
Snakeway wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:13 pm
V.S wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:10 pm
Many people are cursing naturally and instinctively their suffering can and will act as a curse for an abuser. They say a criminal is hunted in prison by his victims, most of them have nightmares, etc. Nature is a complex notion
A spiritually advanced abuser who can protect itself will not be affected. Random people curses are weak because they don't meditate. You are going away from the point
When you cause pain you generate a shitty distructive energy anyway. I believe becoming high spiritually comes with an elevation of your being. You won't be so prone to hit everybody just like that as you'll become secure within yourself as our beloved mamba used to say...
Abusive people are people who where abused environments. When you meditate, you nurture yourself, you give to YOURSELF and learn to give to others. This whole thing of vampirizing everything around you disappear as you start focusing within yourself. So yeah I truly believe meditation will make us all better people if we are to practice it regularly!
I suspect you are searching for excuses to exercise your true nature of acting without consequences? I don't know maybe ask Satan. I would be curious
1.I don't love mamba.
2..Meditate and to rise spiritually DO NOT turn you into a better person. Maxine and the MOSers are the living proof of this. They harm people doing the RTR's for no reason. Sometime out of pure ENVY.
3. I want THE TRUTH. What I suspect is you are trying to make people believe in wrong concepts that make no sense to CONTROL people and to make them behave in a certain manner, as the way people perceive things change their attitude and their decisions. Probably because you behaved like shit and was an abuser yourself