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I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:13 pm
by Venessa
A few days ago I asked for some help regarding my rtr symptoms and was told to email some guy. I told him my symptoms and then he told me I must be a jew because the rtrs are completely safe and simple and wouldn't cause anything like this and I was really annoyed with this honestly. If I remember their name correctly it was blitzrieg? I'm just really disappointed and wanted to reaffirm that this place really does seem like the best place to seek help on these matters. Thank you so much ZolaLuckyStar! <3

Honestly I'm really having a hard with meditation, do you think you could help me? I can't really enter trance that well because I have so much on my mind all the time...

Thanks

Re: I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:26 pm
by HPSZolaLuckyStar
Hi Venessa, This is another topic from my notes I'm currently working on. I'm glad you asked me though, gives me confirmation there's a reason I'm doing this. Very synchronous, I guess I mean to say.

"completely safe and simple and wouldn't cause anything like this"
sounds exactly like what the MSM keeps insisting on even while sudden death is happening with greater and greater frequency all around us:
"don't be crazy; its safe and effective'.

While people who question then why are people dropping dead? Are being called 'conspiracy theorists' and worse. Funny, eh?

Re: I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:35 pm
by Venessa
HPSZolaLuckyStar wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:26 pm Hi Venessa, This is another topic from my notes I'm currently working on. I'm glad you asked me though, gives me confirmation there's a reason I'm doing this. Very synchronous, I guess I mean to say.

"completely safe and simple and wouldn't cause anything like this"
sounds exactly like what the MSM keeps insisting on even while sudden death is happening with greater and greater frequency all around us:
"don't be crazy; its safe and effective'.

While people who question then why are people dropping dead? Are being called 'conspiracy theorists' and worse. Funny, eh?
I'm so tired of being gaslit all the time... I had terrible symptoms after my covid shots too and was told that I was over reacting. the JoS isn't any different than them.

Re: I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:23 pm
by BlackOrbit666
Venessa wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:13 pm A few days ago I asked for some help regarding my rtr symptoms and was told to email some guy. I told him my symptoms and then he told me I must be a jew because the rtrs are completely safe and simple and wouldn't cause anything like this and I was really annoyed with this honestly. If I remember their name correctly it was blitzrieg? I'm just really disappointed and wanted to reaffirm that this place really does seem like the best place to seek help on these matters. Thank you so much ZolaLuckyStar! <3

Honestly I'm really having a hard with meditation, do you think you could help me? I can't really enter trance that well because I have so much on my mind all the time...

Thanks
Hello!

As usual for most JoS members they always tend to deny the negative experiences brought to them after doing the RTRs by saying that individual X or Y who did the RTRs are Jewish if they have negative experiences from the RTRs.


Interesting fact and I need more details about it, who is this guy you had been asked to email for reporting the negative experiences.

Just to know about it.

The RTRs are only reverse Hebrew chanting and they are literally destroying your soul.

Hebrew and Hebrew Kaballistic magic is completely different from the works of the Nordic, Western or Oriental magic.

It is very clear that once you do a type of magic that is not suitable for you, you will have negative experiences.

Just like I had too.

In order for you to enter a trance, although you have a lot of thoughts in your mind you should focus on the void meditation to free your mind, temporarily while entering the trance, of course, from the cotidian volume of thoughts.

If you are advanced, very advanced you can meditate on the Element of Earth as it represents people who are stubborn, calm and very objective oriented.

Hope I helped you

Re: I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am
by Venessa
BlackOrbit666 wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:23 pm
Venessa wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:13 pm A few days ago I asked for some help regarding my rtr symptoms and was told to email some guy. I told him my symptoms and then he told me I must be a jew because the rtrs are completely safe and simple and wouldn't cause anything like this and I was really annoyed with this honestly. If I remember their name correctly it was blitzrieg? I'm just really disappointed and wanted to reaffirm that this place really does seem like the best place to seek help on these matters. Thank you so much ZolaLuckyStar! <3

Honestly I'm really having a hard with meditation, do you think you could help me? I can't really enter trance that well because I have so much on my mind all the time...

Thanks
Hello!

As usual for most JoS members they always tend to deny the negative experiences brought to them after doing the RTRs by saying that individual X or Y who did the RTRs are Jewish if they have negative experiences from the RTRs.


Interesting fact and I need more details about it, who is this guy you had been asked to email for reporting the negative experiences.

Just to know about it.

The RTRs are only reverse Hebrew chanting and they are literally destroying your soul.

Hebrew and Hebrew Kaballistic magic is completely different from the works of the Nordic, Western or Oriental magic.

It is very clear that once you do a type of magic that is not suitable for you, you will have negative experiences.

Just like I had too.

In order for you to enter a trance, although you have a lot of thoughts in your mind you should focus on the void meditation to free your mind, temporarily while entering the trance, of course, from the cotidian volume of thoughts.

If you are advanced, very advanced you can meditate on the Element of Earth as it represents people who are stubborn, calm and very objective oriented.

Hope I helped you
I wish my first impression on Satanism wasn't the joy of satan, I think it'll take quite a long time to fully get over all of the bs I dealt with there so often. They really made me feel worthless and unworthy :( . Fortunately I found this place that tells the truth and I'm not shut down on the littlest things. I feel like anyone worshipping Satan should fully embrace the truth, but I guess the jos would disagree on that.

Void meditations helps yes, I keep forgetting to practice it. I have so much other things going on in my life right now and it's definitely hurting my spiritual development. I wish I had more privacy and financial freedom so that I could meditate more.

Oh, I haven't tried using the elements yet all of that did seem pretty advanced. I'll write it down though and come back to it later. Btw, when do people usually start working on the elements? I read over the element of water and thought it would be nice to improve on.

Thank you!

Re: I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:20 am
by BlackOrbit666
Venessa wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am
BlackOrbit666 wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:23 pm
Venessa wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:13 pm A few days ago I asked for some help regarding my rtr symptoms and was told to email some guy. I told him my symptoms and then he told me I must be a jew because the rtrs are completely safe and simple and wouldn't cause anything like this and I was really annoyed with this honestly. If I remember their name correctly it was blitzrieg? I'm just really disappointed and wanted to reaffirm that this place really does seem like the best place to seek help on these matters. Thank you so much ZolaLuckyStar! <3

Honestly I'm really having a hard with meditation, do you think you could help me? I can't really enter trance that well because I have so much on my mind all the time...

Thanks
Hello!

As usual for most JoS members they always tend to deny the negative experiences brought to them after doing the RTRs by saying that individual X or Y who did the RTRs are Jewish if they have negative experiences from the RTRs.


Interesting fact and I need more details about it, who is this guy you had been asked to email for reporting the negative experiences.

Just to know about it.

The RTRs are only reverse Hebrew chanting and they are literally destroying your soul.

Hebrew and Hebrew Kaballistic magic is completely different from the works of the Nordic, Western or Oriental magic.

It is very clear that once you do a type of magic that is not suitable for you, you will have negative experiences.

Just like I had too.

In order for you to enter a trance, although you have a lot of thoughts in your mind you should focus on the void meditation to free your mind, temporarily while entering the trance, of course, from the cotidian volume of thoughts.

If you are advanced, very advanced you can meditate on the Element of Earth as it represents people who are stubborn, calm and very objective oriented.

Hope I helped you
I wish my first impression on Satanism wasn't the joy of satan, I think it'll take quite a long time to fully get over all of the bs I dealt with there so often. They really made me feel worthless and unworthy :( . Fortunately I found this place that tells the truth and I'm not shut down on the littlest things. I feel like anyone worshipping Satan should fully embrace the truth, but I guess the jos would disagree on that.

Void meditations helps yes, I keep forgetting to practice it. I have so much other things going on in my life right now and it's definitely hurting my spiritual development. I wish I had more privacy and financial freedom so that I could meditate more.

Oh, I haven't tried using the elements yet all of that did seem pretty advanced. I'll write it down though and come back to it later. Btw, when do people usually start working on the elements? I read over the element of water and thought it would be nice to improve on.

Thank you!
People start working on the elements after they clearly know what they are doing, as adding elements and automatically decreasing others, for example you add water you reduce the fire element, and so on, there are certain behavioral and psychological and physiological changes that occur.

Be sure to know what you are doing before starting an element working.

As for this place, yeah... the JoS would totally disagree with what you have just said, about everyone who is embracing Satan to know the clear truth, they would disagree with this immediately, as, oy vey, muh enemy enters the servers, reee :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:44 pm
by Venessa
Godfather wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:38 am
BlackOrbit666 wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:23 pm
Venessa wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:13 pm
I don't appreciate you telling me which race I am, but yes I'm also Asian people thought I was jewish because of my last name. I didn't have to use my picture or my real name here, I wanted to be real in places that tend not to be to set an example. Telling me that I'm crazy for having negative symptoms after doing the rtrs, that's like saying the covid shot is totally safe and nobody ever has bad symptoms after it despite this entire community saying otherwise, lol. I had to get my covid shot for work, I already did a ritual someone recommended for healing after taking them.

I think HP ZolaLuckyStar is doing a fantastic job if she's keeping out trolls even before they get to post, she must be incredibly intuitive, jelly! :lol:

A symphony of little violins for all the jos trolls, criminals and porn spammers that don't get permission to post here :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:

Give me a break, this is the same nonsense mansplanning crap I left the jos specifically for! :roll: :roll:

Re: I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:27 pm
by HPSZolaLuckyStar
Hey Vanessa, sorry you had to put up with that. This criminal admitted he waits till I sleep to come in and do this. His goal is business harassment and sabotage, which is a crime. Don't let him ruin your experience here. as soon as I see him, he'll be gone.

Re: I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:09 am
by BlackOrbit666
Venessa wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:44 pm
Godfather wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:38 am
BlackOrbit666 wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:23 pm
Venessa wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:13 pm
I don't appreciate you telling me which race I am, but yes I'm also Asian people thought I was jewish because of my last name. I didn't have to use my picture or my real name here, I wanted to be real in places that tend not to be to set an example. Telling me that I'm crazy for having negative symptoms after doing the rtrs, that's like saying the covid shot is totally safe and nobody ever has bad symptoms after it despite this entire community saying otherwise, lol. I had to get my covid shot for work, I already did a ritual someone recommended for healing after taking them.

I think HP ZolaLuckyStar is doing a fantastic job if she's keeping out trolls even before they get to post, she must be incredibly intuitive, jelly! :lol:

A symphony of little violins for all the jos trolls, criminals and porn spammers that don't get permission to post here :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:

Give me a break, this is the same nonsense mansplanning crap I left the jos specifically for! :roll: :roll:
Thankfully that Godfather troll got banned.

It was the old pal Cobra lol, who got his nerves triggered a bit by the title of the topic, and, in his little mind he thought that trying to denigrate me and you would be a sweet thing to do.

Unluckily for him, the taste of things got bitter, as, ublike their forums which work with the Christian forces, the forums here truly work with Satanism, with real Spiritual Satanism.

We do not reverse any letters to supposedly destroy an Entity which did not exist in the ancient culture, but then, only in the minds of JoS it exists, and most importantly we truly "have our guts" so to say to ask our questions directly to Satan and the Gods, if we need to, and also do not hide behind dozens and dozens of accounts that spread irrelevancy.

Moreover, the JoS in absolutely NO WAY has the right or capacity to tell you which race you are.

You can be a Hispanic with only 5% traits that may look Jewish, but you do not need to be shy about it, Satan accepts us regardless of our race.

Their magic on the JoS is only a destructive amalgamation of racial bigotry, politics, hate, hypocrisy, superficial authoritarianism and coward behavioural patterns.

There is no real value or would ever be in their RTR's just like it is of no value of reading mundane magazines daily :lol:

What do you need to know, for starters, is thar Satan and the Gods are not, Nordic, or ET beings.

They are also not based on racial bigotry and false authoritarianism.

Those behaviors are characteristic to the Entity the Christians worship, so I wonder why Cobra says that Satanists should pray to Israel and such, :lol:

Be sure to stay positive on the true path of Spiritual Satanism and, whenever you have a problem, you can use the T4S forums and, if the problem still didn't get solved, you can ask Satan and His Demons or the Gods :)

Re: I asked jos for help about the rtrs and they were very rude!!

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:59 am
by HPSZolaLuckyStar
“Thankfully that Godfather troll got banned. It was the old pal Cobra lol, who got his nerves triggered a bit by the title of the topic, and, in his little mind he thought that trying to denigrate me and you would be a sweet thing to do.”

I'm writing the following to clarify as the official voice of the T4S. I've been getting the impression you're speaking as if for the T4S, and some of what you say therefore, is not entirely accurate. So I feel compelled to clarify. But don't take it personally. It's not meant that way:

Cobra, in all his incarnations here, got himself banned. He earned it a thousand times over. Business sabotage is a crime. I'm enforcing my rules.

“Unluckily for him, the taste of things got bitter, as, ublike their forums which work with the Christian forces, the forums here truly work with Satanism, with real Spiritual Satanism.”

Spiritual satanism is a term coined by the JoS. This is not a T4S belief. The JoS did this so they could call themselves 'SS'. As in Nazi SS. The real true Satanism the T4S follows is not spiritual satanism, It's Primordial Satanism. You don't have to agree with my (the T4S) beliefs, you can still be a part of the T4S community. But be law abiding.

“What do you need to know, for starters, is thar Satan and the Gods are not, Nordic, or ET beings.”

The positive being I know as Satan, plus others I've interacted with, are advanced extra dimensional beings not from this planet. Ie: ETs. So we'll have to agree to disagree on that one, lol. In reference to “what you need to know” I think maybe a better way is to share what you know or believe to be true, then allow people to make their own minds up.

“we truly "have our guts" so to say to ask our questions directly to Satan and the Gods, if we need to”

The T4S feels it's best to utilize your own native intuition (gut) first and foremost. Trust yourself, your intuition. If you do go looking for answers from an advanced being, be as discerning as you can. Be cautious. We don't refer to them as 'the gods'. That is a JoS thing. While it's true they're like super-beings or 'gods' compared to us as we are at present; once we have the full power of our minds back, when our DNA is completely repaired and fully activated once again, our power will rival any being in this universe.

Your personal inner connection to the power that creates universes, holds all answers, originates within. This is why we say to trust and believe in yourself, listen to your gut. Your intuition. I think of these super beings (positive ones like Satan and my guides, and others) as friends or as acquaintances. I don't worship them as gods. I don't practice setting up an altar to them, don't do rituals to them. Mamba spent literally months working what he called high magic to invite Satan to appear. When Satan eventually showed up, mamba offered himself up to be possessed by Satan, in order to do His work on this earth. Satan replied that He will never possess anyone and isn't interested in our worship. The T4S doesn't believe in giving worship energy to anything or anyone without. Satan has also shown us this by example, where He states He is the one true god. For Him, that is so. It's an example. The JoS misunderstood and fell to their knees worshipping Him as the one true god. That is in error.

I respect the power these beings have; I would not be rude or disrespectful, but to worship them is a child like mentality. Like calling a super being 'Father' Satan. Big Sky Daddy. Satan wants us to be free and adult. Adults ask questions, think for themselves, use their own personal intuition, logic and reason to reach conclusions. Just like Satan. Someone who acts from calm pragmatism (and Satan is very calm – His energy is incredibly tranquil and soothing. It's quite amazing), someone who does not react emotionally. The enemy of humanity wants that kind of kneejerk irrationalism. Makes humans easier to control.


“You can be a Hispanic with only 5% traits that may look Jewish, but you do not need to be shy about it, Satan accepts us regardless of our race.”

I'm sure you didn't mean it this way blackorbit, but this could be taken as you subtly pushing vanessa is jewish. She stated she's not. JoS people are absolutely obsessed with the jew thing. It's just unpleasant.

“Moreover, the JoS in absolutely NO WAY has the right or capacity to tell you which race you are.”

I agree. Nobody has the right. What does it matter anyways? The T4S feels people should be judged not for their race, but for their individual actions. Which is about taking personal responsibility. Another thing Satan is big on.

This rtr nonsense is basically praying to Israel in the way that rabbis do, chanting hebrew backwards and forwards. Don did a ton of research on this as I've shared in the muh thread. It's not our race or our magic (according to what he was able to find out), which is why there is a negative effect for gentiles. It really makes me wonder why cobra would push this rtr. And then comes in here to push it as well! Why? I have to question that. I do question that.

I agree, stay positive on your individual path, Vanessa. I encourage you to trust and believe in yourself. Nobody knows better than you what you need, what works for you. One way I've found that works for me in regards finding answers is to go to sleep with the set intention I'll remember what I dream. I fall asleep thinking of the question I need the answer to. I tell myself when I awaken, the answer will be there. This really works. It might take many tries, but it definitely works. If you want to ask me a question here, I'll do my best to give you a helpful answer.

Hope this helps.