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What is Karma according to Jos members and ideology what about t4s stance?

Maxine used to say that you can curse people according to your own set of principles but what if you harm innocents as an idiot?
Cobra talks a lot about karma dues but doesn't go far into explaining what and why?

We come on this Earth with some pretty bad shit most of us according to our natal charts and it's hard near to impossible to escape it (even with hard core meditation sessions).

Why do we have a destiny? A destiny is real I seen people who had their future read precisely In various methods

Where is the supposedly free will people talk about when it seems planets are just antennas we cannot escape?

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:33 am What is Karma according to Jos members and ideology what about t4s stance?

Maxine used to say that you can curse people according to your own set of principles but what if you harm innocents as an idiot?
Cobra talks a lot about karma dues but doesn't go far into explaining what and why?

We come on this Earth with some pretty bad shit most of us according to our natal charts and it's hard near to impossible to escape it (even with hard core meditation sessions).

Why do we have a destiny? A destiny is real I seen people who had their future read precisely In various methods

Where is the supposedly free will people talk about when it seems planets are just antennas we cannot escape?

I don't believe in Karma. Karma is not a concept that makes sense in Satanism. Here is why...
Karma is exactly the same as the Christian concept of sin. Christianity teaches us that everyone is born with a debt of sin. How is this different from everyone being born with a karmic debt which they have to pay off with good works? Just replace the word karma for sin, and then you get Christianity.

As a pagan sun worshiper it makes sense to believe in Karma, because you are subjecting yourself to the energy of the planets. However, through self worship, Satanists rise above the planetary influence. This is what it means to escape the wheel of Dharma.

The majority of religious philosophies are collectivist, this includes pagan sun worship which teaches us that we are all worthless debtors. However, Satanist have self worth. We know that we are not debtors and we value human nature as a positive thing. We embrace what it means to be human.

Karma is the substance of energetic imprints within the soul that create the energetic field that becomes your life. There is good karma, bad and neutral. Karma which is a term that means basically causation, can be cleared with different rituals, practices and such. They do work because this does exist. The Russian parapsychologist Varvara Ivanova work on reincarnation and Karma was the proof of such along with the works of the scientist Dr. Ian Stevenson proved this beyond doubt along with reincarnation.

Don Danko wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:15 am Karma is the substance of energetic imprints within the soul that create the energetic field that becomes your life. There is good karma, bad and neutral. Karma which is a term that means basically causation, can be cleared with different rituals, practices and such. They do work because this does exist. The Russian parapsychologist Varvara Ivanova work on reincarnation and Karma was the proof of such along with the works of the scientist Dr. Ian Stevenson proved this beyond doubt along with reincarnation.

Well, your reply makes sense from a Luciferian/sun worship perspective... So I would expect you to say that.

I have experienced this in my own life by direct experience. I don't think I have ever worshiped the sun either. That's a strange argument on your part. And ignores the sources mentioned as well.

HPBlackMamba wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:17 am

Don Danko wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:15 am Karma is the substance of energetic imprints within the soul that create the energetic field that becomes your life. There is good karma, bad and neutral. Karma which is a term that means basically causation, can be cleared with different rituals, practices and such. They do work because this does exist. The Russian parapsychologist Varvara Ivanova work on reincarnation and Karma was the proof of such along with the works of the scientist Dr. Ian Stevenson proved this beyond doubt along with reincarnation.

Well, your reply makes sense from a Luciferian/sun worship perspective... So I would expect you to say that.

Don Danko wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:21 am I have experienced this in my own life by direct experience. I don't think I have ever worshiped the sun either. That's a strange argument on your part. And ignores the sources mentioned as well.

Wasn't arguing, or trying to debate you. I was just saying that I understand your perspective, because I also believed this at some point, and also this is what Pagans/ sun worshipers believe.

My question is harming innocents, let's say children, will have repercussions in this life or another? If yes, do we call this karma right?

AnonPoster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:33 am My question is harming innocents, let's say children, will have repercussions in this life or another? If yes, do we call this karma right?

Your question is really vague. Can you elaborate please? Are you asking about curses or justice? Karma as a means of Justice?

Also about destiny and free will. Which is what and where can we draw the line.

If there are things like let's say bad transits that you know will come aimed at changing the way you used to think about a matter, you see it coming, but once it's there becomes an integrated part of your new you and direction...

Which further raise the question of can we be upset on people which destiny was to let's say abandon their kids. They have it imprinted there IT WAS MEANT TO BE. They had no control over it.

Don Danko wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:15 am Karma is the substance of energetic imprints within the soul that create the energetic field that becomes your life. There is good karma, bad and neutral. Karma which is a term that means basically causation, can be cleared with different rituals, practices and such. They do work because this does exist. The Russian parapsychologist Varvara Ivanova work on reincarnation and Karma was the proof of such along with the works of the scientist Dr. Ian Stevenson proved this beyond doubt along with reincarnation.

Cool how you clear it what rituals and practices