The Number Of The Beast 666

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Don Danko wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:37 am Its a positive of Lucifer which is true he is from experience a liberator, light bringer and friend of humans. But he does not exist within the Judeo-Christian mythology. Its a truth within the context of a falsehood.
HPBlackMamba wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:34 am I couldn't find the original text/document which I discovered in 2016 from the Luciferian organization that I wanted to use as a source. However, it is also spoken about here.
Wikipedia wrote: Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer, the name of various mythological and religious figures associated with the planet Venus. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a destroyer, a guardian, liberator, light bringer or guiding spirit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
Christianity is modern day paganism. Paganism is just as bad as Christianity. This is just my view, I understand that you will object.
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No because Lucifer is an actual being who is positive. Not an egregore of the Jews. There are higher realms in existence then this one and space aliens. Maxine being a materialist couldn't comprehend this so everything had to be space aliens somehow.
HPBlackMamba wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:37 am
Don Danko wrote:Lucifer is a being who is outside of Judeo-Christianity and is a pagan god and celestial being. Scholars and Theologians know it was mistake of mistranslating the Hebrew to Latin that caused this issue.
So Lucifer may as well be Jesus then, because Paganism and Christianity are one and the same. They just replaced the 12 God's with 12 saints.
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No because your argument is general and all encompassing of all Paganism like Paganism was monotheism. Paganism was destroyed by Christianity on purpose as it was an actual threat to the entities and powers behind it. However it might even be what brand of Paganism as I suspect the entities of the Jews started off from local Pagan pantheons as the Bible states and went from there. There are positive beings and evil beings and both have had pacts made with them and been venerated. I suspect the negative gods made a pact with the ancestors of the Hebrews for global domination and enslavement of mankind as the Jewish bible states their ancestors did make such pact with YHVH the negative god. Many of these demons do have the names of the other gods of the ancient Hebrews as well.
HPBlackMamba wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:38 am
Christianity is modern day paganism. Paganism is just as bad as Christianity. This is just my view, I understand that you will object.
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Don Danko wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:45 am No because your argument is general and all encompassing of all Paganism like Paganism was monotheism. Paganism was destroyed by Christianity on purpose as it was an actual threat to the entities and powers behind it. However it might even be what brand of Paganism as I suspect the entities of the Jews started off from local Pagan pantheons as the Bible states and went from there. There are positive beings and evil beings and both have had pacts made with them and been venerated. I suspect the negative gods made a pact with the ancestors of the Hebrews for global domination and enslavement of mankind as the Jewish bible states their ancestors did make such pact with YHVH the negative god. Many of these demons do have the names of the other gods of the ancient Hebrews as well.
HPBlackMamba wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:38 am
Christianity is modern day paganism. Paganism is just as bad as Christianity. This is just my view, I understand that you will object.
Paganism was polytheistic, but so is Christianity. What about the Osiris myth which very much similar to the story of Jesus? Or Odin that was hanged on a tree? It's the same old story they just changed the 12 Gods for 12 saints and now they claim it's "Monotheistic".
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That's an astrotheological approach but there are actual beings behind these systems as well. The most ancient texts beyond what you mention. Simply state there are higher realm beings and there are lower realm beings and some good and some bad, some indifferent to humans. And they also fight each other some times for control of the earth the negative beings wanted to enslave and murder humans and the positive beings being the protectors of humans and the earth.

I believe the myth of Odin and Freyr being placed on the tree was put into the culture by Christians to create a dovetail into Christianity much of the Eddas and all of the Irish pre Christian lore is from the Christian monks. What they didn't destroy they rewrote. I noticed further east the being Shiva who is also called titles of Woden and came from the Indo-Europeans is not hung on any tree or dies or is reborn.
HPBlackMamba wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:48 am
Paganism was polytheistic, but so is Christianity. What about the Osiris myth which very much similar to the story of Jesus? Or Odin that was hanged on a tree? It's the same old story they just changed the 12 Gods for 12 saints and now they claim it's "Monotheistic".
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Although Lucifer is a figure outside of Judaism and Christianity, that doesn't make it better. At least not from my perspective. As a pagan you are still giving up your energy to a higher power. I do believe in a spiritual power, but as a Satanist, this is an inner power instead of a higher power. And Satanism is not the worship of the entity Satan, this is something the JoS dreamed up and is rejected by notable Satanic groups.
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HPBlackMamba wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:03 am As a pagan you are still giving up your energy to a higher power. I do believe in a spiritual power, but as a Satanist, this is an inner power instead of a higher power
And you are not?
Why is this site called truth4Satan then?
doesn't 4Satan imply that you are doing something for Satan?
You say you are not giving energy to a higher power yet you call yourself a Satanist.
You plaster and use his name constantly.
Use his symbols on this site etc.
It's a poor and hpyrocritcal statement to say you're not giving energy to 'a higher power' when you do exactly that.
and what is your definition of a higher power anyways? i presume it's someone who has greater spiritual power than you.


Also Zola states that Satanism is freedom.
If you are against higher powers gaining power then what is with such a statement.
Saying Satanism is freedom implies that freedom is direvied from Satan or requires Satan.
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HPBlackMamba wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:38 am

Christianity is modern day paganism. Paganism is just as bad as Christianity. This is just my view, I understand that you will object.
So in you view Pagan Ancient Egypt was all christianity?
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Snakeway wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:59 am
HPBlackMamba wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:38 am

Christianity is modern day paganism. Paganism is just as bad as Christianity. This is just my view, I understand that you will object.
So in you view Pagan Ancient Egypt was all christianity?
Why is the Osiris Myth so similar to the story of Jesus? Why was the role of the Pharaoh so similar to that of the Pope? Why was Egypt a theocracy?
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You understand things even less than I thought
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